New tractor.

[Joel/ak]

We got a MF 1705 over glorified lawn mower we have been using. Worked great but looking at something bigger.

My question is for the class1 3 point. Are the splines universal between all makes and models? I got all the implements I need. Just a little bit bigger tractor. Curious of the output shaft splines.

 

[AndyMA]

We got a MF 1705 over glorified lawn mower we have been using. Worked great but looking at something bigger.

My question is for the class1 3 point. Are the splines universal between all makes and models? I got all the implements I need. Just a little bit bigger tractor. Curious of the output shaft splines.

Yes all of the modern PTO shafts are the same.

Andy

 

[Joel/ak]

Thanks andy

 

[Bavarian]

You may experience a difference in the length of the Pto shaft. Make sure you have enough overlap in the shaft parts.
As long as it's a 6 spline, they are all the same from the smallest to biggest tractor.

 

[jeff9366]

Massey Ferguson GC1705 Dimensions​

2013 - 2018 GC1700 Series Sub-Compact Utility tractor Iseki built

Dimensions
Wheelbase:	57.1 inches 145 cm
Length:	97.6 inches 247 cm
Width:	47.25 inches 120 cm
Height (ROPS):	72.8 inches 184 cm
Shiping weight:	1433 lbs 650 kg
Ground clearance:	6.7 inches

 

[jeff9366]

We have about 100 acres of hunting land to maintain.
We have a Bobcat 324 mini and a Massey Ferguson 1705.

In my opinion you will have to move up to a 2,100+ pound bare weight tractor to notice a significant capability increase. Almost all tractors with a bare weight of 2,000 to 4,000 pounds have a ground clearance of 12". A few have a ground clearance of 14".

Some 2,100 pound bare weight tractors have a pin adjustment on the Three Point Hitch Lifting Rod stirrups to lower the Lower Link arms 3" to 5" to couple with implements sized for 7" ground clearance subcompact tractors, some do not. Research carefully before you purchase.

Also the "spread" pin width for sub compact implements is usually 20"; viz 26" for compact tractors. This can usually, not always, be addressed by reversing or swapping out the male implement pins.

BUY ENOUGH TRACTOR​

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Most here would recommend a 3,700 pound to 4,000 pound bare weight tractor for maintaining 100 acres of hunting land.

Tractor capability is more closely correlated to tractor weight than any other single (1) specification.

 

[Joel/ak]

Thanks jeff

 

[Joel/ak]

Looking at the kubota 3902. Dealer is about 30 miles away. Have a new holland dealer about 10 miles away but not familiar with the brand

 

[jeff9366]

Nothing wrong with an L3902.

However, price out an MX too. Probably $5,000 more for a 3,700 pound bare weight tractor rather than a 2,700 pound bare weight tractor. Much more stable due to greater width and much larger tires. 40% more horsepower. Twice the FEL lift capacity.

 

[jeff9366]

MX has larger wheels and tires front and rear than any L.

MX has heavier Category 2 Three Point Hitch. Kubota provides pin bushings so you can pull Category 1 implements equally well.

MX has two part rims standard when you order R4 tires, so rear wheel stance is adjustable with R4 tires.

Probably three times as many units of MX are sold, relative to L4701.

Buy the MX.

If you are over 55 years of age buy a Kubota 'Grand L'. Your aging body will thank you every day.

7/2021​

 

[tacticalturnip]

If you can swing a Grand L you're operating in comfort, I don't think anyone can argue against that.

 

[Torvy]

Sure we can. You can get same quality tractors for a lot less from a few other OEMs.

 

[tacticalturnip]

Sure we can. You can get same quality tractors for a lot less from a few other OEMs.

Oh you can get the same comfort, but they've not quite matched the same... feel. You can get real close, I mean a Hyundai Sonata is an excellent car, but TYM/LS/Kioti have yet to release their Genesis. That's coming though, and I'd argue it'll be within this decade.

I hope my ridiculous automobile analogy made enough sense lol.

 

[tacticalturnip]

Now, to clarify, the Grand L in my mind has that beautiful cab.

 

[Joel/ak]

I'm 50 but I feel older every morning when the alarm goes off at 330am.

That mx looks better. A little more but not out of reach

 

[Torvy]

Now, to clarify, the Grand L in my mind has that beautiful cab.

I hear what you are trying to say, but I liked the TYM cab better than the Kubota because it is better sized.

I mostly drive Toyota. The Lexus is 'nicer', but nothing near nice enough to justify the higher price for essentially the same car. Most Lexus drivers are doing it to make an impression, or they have more money than sense.

 

[Joel/ak]

Not looking for something with a cab

 

[Torvy]

Not looking for something with a cab

Me neither! Too many trees at my place.

 

[tacticalturnip]

I hear what you are trying to say, but I liked the TYM cab better than the Kubota because it is better sized.

I mostly drive Toyota. The Lexus is 'nicer', but nothing near nice enough to justify the higher price for essentially the same car. Most Lexus drivers are doing it to make an impression, or they have more money than sense.

I honestly can't remember much of the TYM cabs, as it's been a while since I looked at them. I remember them feeling quite similar to the Branson cabs, of course this was when they were still two companies. I've got to say I really like the cabs on Kioti's CK and DK series; still, I remember the Grand L's cab feeling really substantial, insulated against the outside in a figurative manner. Perhaps that's the result of years of effective marketing, but I don't know. The overall quality of Kioti was enough to counter growing up with a Kubota, but am I still so susceptible to a good ad campaign? Who knows.

Maybe I'm putting too much thought into it, but who cares, isn't discussion the core of message boards?

 

[jeff9366]