Screamin, you satisfied that none of us know of any brand cheating going on in this market? I've never read of any, though I'm sure some manufacturer might have gotten embarrassed at official trials when they came up a little short. Usually hp equates directly to number of discs or feet of planter or whatever on ag tractors, so if you buy enough tractor, and it doesn't work well, sure might make you wonder. I watch a lot of youtube farming videos and seems to me most farmers aren't maxxing out the tractor. I don't see a lot of videos where big grain carts are overturned along with the tractor. See tons of them getting stuck in mud though. So having a reserve of traction vs hp is often a more usable choice. Why tracked tractors are so popular, plus they ride a lot better apparently. Like buying a house. or two... I think the rubber hits the road when someone buys a big batwing mower for the first time. That's an implement many of us non farmers might buy that requires serious hp. Though if you buy a five foot rear tiller and your 25hp SCUT just dies on you, same problems.
now to likely offend someone...even though my last name is German, almost a dozen of my relatives went into the ovens in WWII. The ones who hadn't immigrated like my grandfather did.
That was sure the Big Lie. Then I owned a VW TDI and had the worst dealership experience ever. The people, not the car, were dishonest.
While the sales manager was off getting some paper done, he didn't turn off his pc, which was running a sales training tape on how to basically BS
the customer, deflect hard questions about recalls, talk about bland topics. My jaw dropped listening to it, how to schmooze your customers, baffle them with BS
and here's the corporate training on how to do that. The Big Lie was in full effect. So how do you trust a dealership like that?
So to answer the OP's question, I bet if anyone would try to lie in this business it would be the Germans, and they deserve this pie in the face.
Good thing big ag John Deere competes against them and I bet JD keeps them honest.
I just received my new Q5 Audi built in Germany, btw, so I believe you have to move on.
But I don't trust them at all, even though different tunes are being sung.
Just like at Wells Fargo.
Good thing most German tractors aren't imported here so it's not an issue at all. Lot of big factories there that used to build IH and JD models I believe.
let's see, who is left to insult?
Lot of tractors made in India, my 2615 was, so are lots of JD 5 series, or were.
I wouldn't worry about the Indians. Those Perkins clones are likely pretty well sorted out by now.
ok, based on all my personal life experiences, though, if I project personal honesty characteristics onto a tractor manufacturer,
I think I'd most worry about a tractor built in Russia. I have lived among many Russians. Most were dishonest in some fashion, some acted
like suburban gypsies, how can I not report any income, how can I screw my insurance company with a phony roof repair.
So I wouldn't trust them at all to not hype power ratings. But their tractors tend to be unbreakable which seems to be a lot more relevant to their owners.
nothing like useless but fun anecdotal evidence. Sorry if anyone offended. This might disappear quickly.
