Man, I have been shopping Kioti and Kubota for a few weeks now and just started considering LS because Im a "bang for your buck" kind of guy. Just wanted to say that this thread is awesome and definitely helped nudge me in that direction. To be honest, the LS pricing for the specs is so good I feel like there has to be some kind of catch. Seems like a lot of tractor for the money.
I've got an LS XR4155HC that I bought in the fall of 2017 and the main driver for me going down the LS path was really the amount of tractor for the money. I've got about 155 hours on so far with a wide variety of usage - moving round bales, moving a lot of dirt with the FEL, moving snow with the FEL, mowing with a finishing mower, running a box blade, running a landscape rake, and pulling a disc. Overall I'm very happy with my purchase, with LS it seems like you can go up a frame size and add a cab for about the same money as a smaller open platform Kubota.
Overall pluses:
- The cab is great for working dry ground in the summer (AC is awesome!!) and winter plowing (cab keeps me too warm!!)
- I love the HST - it's an awesome feature that helps this tractor act more like a skid steer or lawn more when needed. It's especially handy for fine work unloading trailers vs. a gear drive tractor.
- The larger frame size helps move more material (dirt, rocks, snow, bales) faster considering it's still a "small" tractor. I couldn't imagine trying to move round bales with a smaller tractor...
- 2 sets or rear remotes stock is awesome for top/tilt applications or running a low usage grapple setup.
- 4wd is a must in my mind for the tractor size and what I use it for
- My dealer swung me a bunch of extras - fluid filled tires, free equipment rentals, etc.
- Regen hasn't been an issue at all. Seems like it happens every 50 hours like I was told it would, and it has had zero effect on my usage during that time
Overall minuses:
- While my tractor paint looks great I've got some rust spots on the loader welds and have I've blasted off some weak adhesion on the cylinder rod ends while washing it with my pressure washer. I bought some touch up paint and am not overly concerned, but not ideal for something so new....
- I'm still working on using the vents to keep the glass from fogging while I clear my driveway in the winter. It's not bad at all when my tractor sits in my heated shop, but if it's sitting outside for the day it seems like I have more interior fogging than I'd like.
- I feel like the loader is too slow when trying to run 2 motions at the same time, say lift and curl. I know Kubota advertising on YouTube talks down the New Holland (LS) tractor on this. That said, I don't really "make money" with my tractor so while I feel it's slower than I'd like it still gets the job done and cost way less than the "faster" Kubota setup.
Best of luck!
Nate