Newbie lookimg for advice on YM240D

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i have figured it out, not sure what times appear on everyone elses computer but mine seems to be set for the time zone ahead of eastern, atlantic?, so it is 1 hour ahead so if i post at 8am the post time is listed at 9am. Either that(pretty sure im set on eastern though) or no one has set it for daylight savings time.
 
   / Newbie lookimg for advice on YM240D #12  
Don't worry about weathered hoses. They should be double-braid so you have a long way to go before you see leaks. :D

All but one of mine were 30-year original and looked like heck. I have a couple where the outer braid is naked!

Since I occasionally tear off hoses while rasseling whole downed apple trees, and it's less than an hour round trip to go have a hose made, I run them until they sweat under load. I have replaced two after they sweated but more than that due to my user abuse, snagging on something while lifting or backing away from a snarled tree.

In commercial service where every hour counts, sure, a few hundred $ of fresh hoses is justified. But where an hour downtime, maybe every 2 - 3 years, won't hurt, just run them to death then when one sweats, replace a few worst ones.
 
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Too cold yesterday to go out and play with my new tractor (besides,it took an hour and a battery charger to get it started and off the trailer) so I left it in the barn and spent some time tinkering and getting to know my way around it. I found that the temp sender had been rigged to appear connected but actually was not. Whan I connected the wire properly the temp light came on and stayed on. I won't run it anymore until this is remedied. No Yanny dealers around me. Are there any sending units that cross reference with this one that I might be able to get at a local auto parts store?? I'm just anxious to try the tractor and don't want to wait for the part to come in the mail.
 
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Too cold yesterday to go out and play with my new tractor (besides,it took an hour and a battery charger to get it started and off the trailer) so I left it in the barn and spent some time tinkering and getting to know my way around it. I found that the temp sender had been rigged to appear connected but actually was not. Whan I connected the wire properly the temp light came on and stayed on. I won't run it anymore until this is remedied. No Yanny dealers around me. Are there any sending units that cross reference with this one that I might be able to get at a local auto parts store?? I'm just anxious to try the tractor and don't want to wait for the part to come in the mail.
You could what I and others did. Go to auto parts store and buy a temp gauge. You will also need the metric adapter kit. Those temp switches are known to fail. Mine did. If it is that cold I doubt you would run it hot unless the radiator is clogged or the water pump is bad.
 
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I would have to agree with Bob about the weather. I would also use the decompression on a cold start also. Here is a wire diagram for your tractor it's label is yam/240 but everything seems to be the same for the 2000 complements of Norm a good while back. On mine if you ground out the wire to the water temp. sender your light should come on. I believe that is correct still have Half Timers going on so don't hold me to that. I would have to go out to check for sure. And after Being out in it all day yesterday it aint happening.


Carey
 

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   / Newbie lookimg for advice on YM240D #16  
Carey, yes, grounding the wire that goes from the temp sender to the dash will turn on the light.

When the electrical system is working normally, you can test the warning light by sliding up the connector at the sensor to expose the sensor output, then touch a grounded wire there. If everything is ok this will turn on the dash light. Trkrd, you might look for spots where the temp wire is shorted to ground. I think this is more likely than a stuck-on sensor. If possible, disconnect that wire at *both* ends and temporarily replace it with a good wire. If the light is now off, that confirmed a grounded sensor wire.

I won't run it anymore until this is remedied. No Yanny dealers around me. Are there any sending units that cross reference with this one that I might be able to get at a local auto parts store?? ...don't want to wait for the part to come in the mail.

It can't overheat that fast! Don't be afraid to start it up. If everything is normal and considering this cold weather you should be able to touch the top of the radiator tank, and the midpoint of the block, with your bare hand to judge temperature.

If it really is the sensor (and I think that is the least likely cause), pull the sender and take it to NAPA, Autozone, etc and match by eye. In several cases Yanmar spec'ed peripheral parts the same as whatever Datsun (Nissan) was using at the time. This is one reason these old Yanmars are so easily supported, worldwide, 30 years later!

I recently replaced my oil pressure sender with generic, see this thread:
Low oil pressure? No, bad sender!

Since the temp sender is essentially a boilover-anticipation warning, any 70's Japanese car that also used a 13 psi radiator cap should have a similar sender. You just need to match threads and electrical connector. Match to a vehicle with a lower radiator cap pressure if you want a safety margin. (Boilover temp is proportional to system pressure).

If you try this, please writeup your experiment to share with us!

And - everyone who posts here that just bought a Yanmar, wants to put gauges on it immediately. In my opinion you don't need them. I have come to appreciate that Yanmar got it right on a lot of details. All you need is boilover warning and no-oil-pressure warning. Adding on complexity just adds potential problem points.

You will never see a boilover if you keep the radiator fins clean and the cooling system is up to spec. it is designed and marketed to run at full rated hp load, flat out, for the several hours that tank of fuel lasts. That's what the hp rating means! If it runs hot you need cooling system refurbishing, not a more precise gauge.

Harbor Freight's little remote temperature sensor is often on sale for $10 or less. It is a precise way to measure temperature at the block, head, top vs bottom of the radiator, etc. In my opinion that is the diagnostic tool needed rather than a dash gauge.

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Thanks, I did run the little guy for about 1/2 hr today and afterward could hold my hand on the head, not hot at all. Going to town tommorrow so maybe I'll se what a guage costs, Just like to have some idea what's going on with temp. After more tinkering today found out why I needed a charger to start it. First of all found a bad Charge light bulb and changed it, still not charging. Pulled the mechanical voltage regulator and found it full of dead bugs ans debris. Cleaned it up and now is charging and starting like a champ. I think the dealer picked this guy up at an auction, washed it and put it on the market without even so much as checking the oil. All the little things I am finding wrong could have been fixed easily prior to the "for sale" sign. Doesn't make a difference to me, I've been wrenching on things since I was twelve and enjoy tinkering. But to a less knowledgeable buyer who wants a turn-key machine, it would be a nightmare and a big mechanic's bill. Anyway, tomorrow he gets all the fluids and filters changed, brakes adjusted (won't stop) and should be good to go.
 
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Pulled the mechanical voltage regulator and found it full of dead bugs ans debris. Cleaned it up and now is charging and starting like a champ.
You are smarter than I am. When I bought my YM240 there was a heavy mud-dauber nest under the regulator so I hit it with the pressure washer. Bad mistake! The wet mud shorted the big resistors under there and fried the regulator.

I paid about $70 for a correct replacement regulator then on a hunch took it to Autozone and told them it was off a '70's Datsun. They tested it and said it was the same thing as their '72 Datsun regulator, plug and all. Likewise the alternator is interchangeable with '72 Datsun and that bumps the output from 15 amps to 35.

When people say this model (and its twin YM2000) are the best supported of any older Japanese-made tractor, it is not an exaggeration at all!
 
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Great info on electrical cross references, that is good info Cali. I wish that last post was bookmarked at the top for us all to reference if we need parts in say 1 year and cant rembember the make of vehicle or you as the original poster. This is part of the reason i am replying so that if i forget any of those details i can search my old posts assuming i remember i replied to it so that i can find it at a latter date if need be.

-Nate
 
   / Newbie lookimg for advice on YM240D #20  
I was just curious..... Does anyone know if that 72' Datsun alternator work for some of the smaller models like the 1610D? That would be great to get more amps for external lights.

Justin
 

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