Next time you're sure you're doing it right...

DaveNay · May 13, 2004

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( Actually the sequence of photos showing the TLB climbing the rail car is not as far fetched as it appears.)

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Wanna buy some beach front property in Alaska?

Dave

shoppintractors · May 13, 2004

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Check it out......

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Don

DaveNay · May 13, 2004

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( Check it out......)

That's insane..... /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Dave

Taylortractornut · May 13, 2004

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Being a crane and backhoe operator myself I see a few things wrong with what they did. One is to positionging of the cranes. 2nd is the type of cranes and 3rd thing is the postions of the rigging. First of all they needed to be on opposite sides ofthe tower to swing it to the enmabnkment they are on now. Asuming they wanted to lay it on that embankment. The yellow cran should have been on the side of the man in the Carharts in the first pic. The way the boom angle is they didnt have enough room to swing towards each other to boom up or down enough to make up for the radius of the swing and the boom. See how in the 2nd and 3rd picture the way the load is making the rigging and blocks lean in towards the crane. Your never supposed to let this happen a crane isnt happy unless the load is verticle.
The part about the cranes being the wrong type is an sumption that they didnt have a hydraulic freewheeling drum like a Manitowoc or a friction crane so in the event of an accident or emergency you could free spool it down and not tipp the crane. Also the speed that they were using to hoist then lay the tower over was a big factor one not letting ou either slower o or faster than the the other see how its favoring the yellow crane. THe slings or chokers could have also slid up the verticle beams on the tower to causing it to lean over. THe yellow crane might possibly have saved itself retracting the telescopic boom to make the load hang vertically but i doubt it would have been able to fast enough

BIGUN · May 14, 2004

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Thanks for the link. Hadn't seen this site before. Very funny. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

kensfarm · May 14, 2004

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"This is OK but OSHA makes me wear fall protection if I go more than 6' high? Now there's a crazy safety rule!!! "

There is a reason for that rule.. 75% of all people who fall 1 story onto concrete are killed. That is only the distance from your living room to the basement.. 10ft?

The reason I know this is my younger sister broke her back, arm, and a set of stitches from this exact fall.. 8 hours of surgery to repair a crushed vertibre.. she's okay today.. just can't touch her toes like she use to.

kevinj · May 14, 2004

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Sometimes we have to go up 30' to tie off for working at that 6' level. Does that make sense ????

kensfarm · May 14, 2004

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I would think tying off closer to the level you were working at would make more sense.. why so high for 6'? I was initially shocked that such a short fall would cause such a high % in death.

Wonder what that pucker factor is for the first time you use the tractor to climb the rail car?

Taylortractornut · May 14, 2004

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I had a good scuffle with the safety man on a job one day when i was 21. I was on top of the house on the excavator i was running and checking the oil and adding hydraulic fluid and fueling. It had a cat walk around some of it but not all the way around. He jumped my tail about not being tied off at the top. I tld him it was safe and that youd have to be un intelligent to want to tie off or safety harness to it for such little tasks. Im ean youd have to tie off or safety harness on when gettin into the track loader wheel loader or alot of other machines. I then had to climb the back of the boom that day to tighen a line from the hoe ram and he came down the hill running and screaming. We later ran him off the job.

armyof1 · May 14, 2004

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I must say this is the first time I have seen a backhoe do this. this would not be the job for me to thing. great site. Sam