NH Quality

[Yankee]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( A Yankee in Virginia. /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif

You bet! Massachusetts born and bred. My wife, however, is thrilled to be here, as she was brought up in Virginia. She gets her home state and I get a tractor. Now how bad is that? I may just stop saying "ayuh" and start saying "y'all."

Yankee Bill

 

[Yankee]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( </font><font color="blueclass=small">( Maybe there is a J.D. Power tractor reliability survey? )</font>

That's sort of what I had in mind. You'd think some industry group would track this kind of thing.

Yankee Bill

 

[LAGEORGE]

Yankee, I have had experience with 2 NH 24D’s and I can tell you that QC may be an issue with those tractors. I have been quiet about any issues on my new tractor but since your are asking about quality control on TC 24D’s I will offer up my experience. My first TC 24D was a disaster everything was going wrong from a wheel falling off to a hole in the oil pan, things were not good. So I made my case and New Holland replaced it with another one. I am happy with it but still very leery about quality control. I have had a couple issues one somewhat serious with the parking brake. Seems the parking brake would not hold the tractor and the brake pedal would sure go down pretty far. Waited till New Years Eve to tell the dealer, service guy was there at my home in less than 15 minutes. I also have had throttle problems but the dealer also adjusted that as well. A current issue is the bolt that holds the seat in place and is also the hinge point for the seat fell out. I found the bolt but not the special washer.
I really like the size and specs of the TC 24D, it can do lots of real work but yes it is very tipsy and it will tip as it happened to me on Saturday transferring 1000 lbs. of fertilizer from the truck to the FEL bucket tractor took a nosedive. My rear tires are filled but I think only to 50% grabbed the loader control and dumped it saving the tractor from tipping sideways. Funny thing is I have moved material similar in weight and have had no problems. I going to check the water in the tires and regardless of cost get 4 wheel weights or better yet a three-point weight system ASAP. So if you do get a NH 24D you better just go ahead and get some wheel weights your safety is priceless!

George

PS: The new engine sounds a whole heck of a lot better kind of like an old V8 diesel Suburban! /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

 

[Bob_Skurka]

LAGEORGE. . . regarding the tipping while using a loader.

I was moving some granite cobblestones with my Kubota B2910. The backhoe was off the machine and the rear tires are NOT loaded so I was not in the safest mode. I do have a few hundred pounds of iron bolted to the bottom of the frame, but it is in front of the rear wheels.

Anyway the cobbles are large and heavy, averaging 20# a piece. I was working on smooth asphalt, picking them up out from a big pile I had poured into a ditch and moving them about 50 to 75 feet to put them in another ditch. I had been doing this for about an hour and had no problems, the rear end was firmly on the ground, the bucket was typically 1/2 full.

I picked up a load and raised the bucket, mind you I am on flat asphalt, and the tractor started to tip to the right. I actually saw the left front wheel come off the ground. I had my hand on the bucket control and dropped the whole load it fast while spinning the steering wheel with my other hand to correct the tractor. I didn't go over but my rear end was puckered for about an hour after that. And I learned a heck of a lesson. WEIGHT DOWN LOW AND FAR BACK is a good thing to have when using a front loader! In fact, it is NECESSARY on any size tractor of any brand.

On my TC24D I have weights inside my FRONT wheels to hold them down. I have 2 implements that are very heavy (60" Befco finish mower, and 60" Farm King snowblower) and find that without 100# on the front end that the tractor will do wheelies. I am thinking of adding another 50# up front, but the 100# already up there makes a world of difference with big heavy implements on the rear.

 

[snowbound]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( I really like the size and specs of the TC 24D, it can do lots of real work but yes it is very tipsy and it will tip as it happened to me on Saturday transferring 1000 lbs. of fertilizer from the truck to the FEL bucket tractor took a nosedive.)</font>

LAGEORGE, did you have the 1000# in the bucket all at once? Isn't that close to the limits of the 12LA loader?

 

[spencer200]

1000 lb exceeds the factory rating!

 

[Yankee]

George,

I appreciate the reply. Your posts on your oil pan problem were one of the things that triggered my question. That suggested both a design issue as well as quality control.

Of the other items you mention, a couple aren't really QC issues, including tipping with a 1000 lb load and even the parking brake. Regarding the latter, that's one of the problems with a hydro transmission. You definitely can't rely on the parking brake. I would expect it to hold, generally speaking, but wouldn't be surprised to have some creep on a hill or when loaded up.

The wheel falling off seems to be pretty common with new tractors. I've heard enough references to this happening that I've made a mental note to re-torque wheels when the time comes (purchase, that is).

Throttle problems, nuts and bolts, etc. may be assembly line QC issues, on the other hand.

On a more positive note, one of the things I also noted was that New Holland has stood behind you and you've gotten resolution.

Anyone else have any comments on the TC24's balance? Again, it's a bit taller and narrower than the Kubota B7610/2410.

Yankee Bill

 

[LAGEORGE]

Opps, it held it for a second? /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif

 

[LAGEORGE]

Is there a song that goes "take it to the limit........"
Like I said, I am the NH number one test boy. /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

George

 

[Bob_Skurka]

Generally I do not notice my NH TC24 being tippy. But laws of physics will prevail. You can set the wheels to be dished IN or dished OUT. When set to the outward position they widen the track a couple inches. You may be able to order adjustable wheels, I BELIEVE they were available on the earlier models but now fixed wheels are standard. An adjustable wheel allows you to set the track width and can spread the rear track by up to 6 or more inches, depending on the tractor. Not sure if NH still offers them for the TC 24.