NH Supersteer An exclusive feature??

[SethO]

For loader work, it is may be more difficult for those who are used to other types of tractors at least in the beginning. But if it is your only tractor, I see no reason why you can not adjust to the way the front end behaves.

I think in the field, because of the smaller size of the front wheels/tires, it will dig in. Using articulation will allow same sized front and rear wheels and achieve usable small turning radius, and I think that is the direction that other manufacturers have gone.

 

[jmc]

While the spes show only a couple of inches difference in "Turning Radius" between a regular axle and a Supersteer axle, there is a huge improvement in "Turnaround Diameter". So yes. the specs don't do it justice. For example, on a FWD TC35, regular axle vs SS (both w/ brakes):

Turning radius: 110 vs 106
Turnaround diameter: 127 vs 83

The specs need a picture.

 

[PineRidge]

The axle pivot point on the SuperSteer is actually located behind the axle. When you are not using a FEL there is no problem. But, add a FEL and when you 1st sharply turn left the front of the tractor moves right and vice versa, for a split second. This is more noticeable when the tractor is stationary than when moving, although it still happens. Kind of like getting used to driving a very sensitive semi. I park mine in close quarters in a pole barn and I quickly got used to the quirk without taking the paint off the new Toyota parked next to it. It is really a remarkable piece of engineering and I have only heard a few people that just could not get used to it. Some folks don’t embrace change very easily I reckon. /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

 

[thcri]

I have the super-steer and there is two reasons why it can be difficult for loader work. The first reason is the loader sways from side to side as you turn your wheels. Makes it tough when you are trying to go along side something. However, when trying to get in corners the super-steer actually allows you to get in tighter corners. The second reason is when you turn your wheels sharp you basically make your tractor, well kind of like a narrow front end tractor and it becomes tipsy.

So my advice is, if your going to do a lot of mowing around a lot of things then get the Super-Steer. If your going to do a lot of loader work then skip the Super-Steer. I love it because I do mostly mowing around lots of pine trees. I do some loader work but the majority is mowing. My next rig would have Super-Steer unless I move up some day and have a tractor for each thing I do.

murph

 

[8561]

ledebuhr1 -
One thing you didn't mention (if you did I missed it) was the approximate size or horsepower tractor you are interested in. In Kubota, their 24hp B2410 can be purchased with a feature called bi-speed turn. This system turns the front wheels at approximately twice their normal speed when the steering wheel is turned beyond a certain point. This feature can be switched on or off and only works in fwd. It is designed to reduce turning radius and also helps reduce the amount the front tires cut into soft terrain, like turf. I have a bi-speed B2410 and the feature works well. I have found it to be beneficial doing loader work in tight places, as opposed to what some have reported on the supersteer. To my knowledge, the B2410 is the only current Kubota offering bi-speed.

 

[dylan]

I have a TC33D with the supersteer and find it very handy. Like everyone else has mentioned, there is a learning curve for driving with a loader next to things, but the tight turning radius is fantastic in small areas. Drove MF and Kubota before and really like the difference when turning.

 

[ledebuhr1]

Thanks, I am looking at a Kubota L3430HSt with a cab. I dont think i would ever be in areas tight enough to need a Supersteer axle. Mostly for landscaping and snoplowing.

 

[PineRidge]

Murph I agree with you. Most of my work is finish mowing on 9+ acres so the SuperSteer is right handy. However I did get the FEL to play once the mowing work is done. It's so easy to take the 17LA off that I do not mow with it in place.

 

[equipman]

8561
Actually (for information purposes), the bi-speed feature is standard on the M110 and M120 4WD models.
Lewis

 

[8561]

Thanks equipman. I didn't realize they did that on the big tractors. Any idea why they don't offer it on more models? Must be that they don't think they can sell them. /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif I know they used to offer it on some other B models.