No Hot Water Heaters over 50 gallons now at Lowes or Home Depot

[Zerk]

Dielectrics are required by code I thought. Keep an eye on that it may start to corrode.

Though at work we use lots of bare copper wire for grounding, and corrosion doesn't seen to be problem even though we use conduit one hole straps.

 

[cat fever]

Dielectrics are required by code I thought. Keep an eye on that it may start to corrode.

Though at work we use lots of bare copper wire for grounding, and corrosion doesn't seen to be problem even though we use conduit one hole straps.

The problem is copper to galvanized. (electrolysis) If the 3/4" female adapter was brass no problem. Or at least less problem.

Zerk I'm curious what a struggling **** star needs to ground while at work.

 

[LD1]

I changed out a electric 80 gallon for 2 40 gallon gas heaters.

Just curious, why series and not parallel?

 

[cat fever]

Just curious, why series and not parallel?

The argument could be made for both ways. I set my own up similar to murphy's and have plenty of hot water all the time. I'd be interested for kenmac's opinion.

 

[murphy1244]

I wanted them set up as I could pull either 1 out of service and still use the other 1.Right now 1 feeds into the other like a preheater. The dielectrics are on the hot water tanks.

 

[kenmac]

The argument could be made for both ways. I set my own up similar to murphy's and have plenty of hot water all the time. I'd be interested for kenmac's opinion.

Well,, If both are the same size and same input rating I usually install in parallel for more Hot Water.. I also install expansion tanks on my installs per IPC ...
I guess he has his reasons for connecting in series. In series, 1 WH is going to do most of the water heating work, while the other tank is mostly being used for storage

http://www.hotwater.com/lit/bulletin/bulletin64.pdf

 

[JRobyn]

In many jurisdictions now, expansion bladder tanks are required, but homeowners/DIYers tend to skip the extra plumbing and expense of installing them. IF there is no license or permit or inspection requirement. I suppose if an insurance company had a large claim due to a plumbing rupture contributed to by lack of an expansion tank, they could sue the vendor who sold the tank and did NOT also sell an expansion tank. May be part of why HD/Lowes are getting touchy about selling water heaters to DIYers.

 

[Gale Hawkins]

Not all of KY is like that. Only the bigger cities and their counties. I can still go in and buy a water heater and sign a waiver to get it. Our county requires a septic and electrical inspection only to have permanent power turned on.

Stuckmotor all I had to do was to give my name and address but the clerk never looked at the form as to checking my info as to be factual or not. He was writing down model numbers, etc off of the shipping box. There was info space for permit, etc info but I had none but they still loaded it into my son's truck.

The form had OEM name at the top. While I see the handwriting on the wall I expect at this phase it is the OEM limiting their liability. A KY homeowner currently has a lot of altitude on doing his/her own work. For example I can install my own septic seep field but I have to get the permit through the health department that will specify running feet and its location, etc. Then there is the pre and post fill inspection. This is a good thing because so many would straight pipe (no septic tank) to a ditch especially mobile homes.

While I could slip around and do the seep field I will not do that to my wife. Yesterday a local businessman my age dropped dead from a heart attack without warning. The the wife can sell the place sell better with an new certified and recorded seep field. The permitting can be a pain but as a healthcare trained person I agree permitting is for my long term best interest.

The best thing is to keep the inspectors in the loop. Last summer I put in a curtain drain at church because where we were going to build a pole barn (gym) on a slab would push water within 6 inches of the surface over night after digging a hole. I checked with the inspector by phone and told her what I was planning to do and she said OK after noting some details.

Guess what? After we ordered the washed rock to do the job a plumber turned us in as starting a non permitted septic system. Some some bad mouth this inspector but at their own peril. She has a job to do and you for sure do not what to give her a reason to push it from a county inspection to a state inspector.

 

[Gale Hawkins]

In many jurisdictions now, expansion bladder tanks are required, but homeowners/DIYers tend to skip the extra plumbing and expense of installing them. IF there is no license or permit or inspection requirement. I suppose if an insurance company had a large claim due to a plumbing rupture contributed to by lack of an expansion tank, they could sue the vendor who sold the tank and did NOT also sell an expansion tank. May be part of why HD/Lowes are getting touchy about selling water heaters to DIYers.

JRobyn it saw a picture of using a bladder tank and the required size. We have a 60 gallon bladder pressure tank in the system so we have a lot of expansion if needed but I do not know the technical code in our case. Lowes/Home Depot regret selling lawn mowers to DIY yard care types some days I expect when some get returned for no fault to the mower.

 

[Tractor Seabee]

FYI, the IPC (remember it is a model code so local jurisdiction may be different) states that max temperature at outlets be restricted to 110 degrees F to prevent scalding. As was stated earlier that is too low to prevent bacteria from growing in the HW tank. W/O an anti scald valve or shower valve that includes it that is then the HW tank setting. Commercial work commonly sets WH at 150 degrees F and uses mixing valves at the fixture. I just finished a test protocol that included all those features for a VA facility.

Ron

Ron