No mo' hard drives

   / No mo' hard drives #41  
Is there a standard SSD connection? How do I get the SSD info if the mother board or power system fails on the computer? For my hard drives, I remove them and use them if I can. The HD from my old Dell was being used to access Google Earth; it was retired because it had slowed due to some bad sectors. Recently found another hard drive from the wife's other old Dell. Put it on there. It works but had been erased. Will remove the one from the recently deceased old Dell and see if it works. Put my old Dell HD back on the converter (to USB), and it has quit. Will bash it up and throw it away now.

On this machine, my flash drive is my main drive with cloud backup, but I backup both my machine and her machine about once every 3 months to a flash drive located in a fireproof box in the fireproof basement of the carriage house. I'm big on backups. Even have some on some old CDs and Zip drives.

Ralph

Thats the way to do it :) SSD connection depends on SSD interface type and SSD hardware type. For example, just talking about one you can add to your HDD bay, there is a cradle you can buy and typicaly the SSD drive will have an SATA type connecter. Motherboards can also have a memory type plug in for SSD drive chips that you can use.

If you have an older laptop or PC you can use the fastest USB port you have and buy an external HDD USB enclosure (you can buy them with the SSD already) and instal the SSD drive of your choice.

I need to backup more frequently because ransomeware is on the rise. Once business become to difficult a target they ill start coming after us again.
 
   / No mo' hard drives #42  
Now when your DATA is unrecoverable, it will truly be that.
 
   / No mo' hard drives #43  
If you have a SSD, be sure to do regular backups. That flash ram has a limited number of write cycles.

This is true but with some caveats...

The cheaper lower quality drives have higher failure rates than the more expensive ones. You also want to use the software utility that comes with your drive as it will increase the SSD drives life.

If your doing high writes and deletes then it can reduce its life. Ive been running my 1TB NANO Samsung SSD drive for 4 years now editing, copying, deleting, moving large 4k videos and pics from my drone, cameras, 360 cameras and Samsung notes. So far so good :)
 
   / No mo' hard drives
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#44  
What is there to wear out on an SSD?
 
   / No mo' hard drives #46  
What is there to wear out on an SSD?

Non-volatile silicon storage has a limited number of write cycles. Early designs were as little as 100-1,000 writes. Things started getting interesting at 100,000 write cycles. Don't know what they are claiming today but much of the magic in an SSD is the integrated controller which remaps "disk blocks" to distribute wear over the entire media so things like the blocks holding the filesystem directory do not wear out rendering the entire SSD useless. This remapping makes the task of undeleting files very difficult.

Some use a RAM cache to delay writes to the non-volatile media guessing the most recent thing written is the most likely thing to be changed. Developers need to know this is occurring rather than trust critical data has been written all the way to non-volatile storage. Years ago hard drives started putting large RAM caches onboard which caused many to lose data when computer shut down before all data made it to the disc.
 
   / No mo' hard drives #47  
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I work directly from my flash drive on this machine and immediately copy to my OneDrive cloud. Not using the SSD for my own files.

On my wife's machine now, she's not computer savvy enough to do what I do. So, I've prompted myself on Outlook calendar to back her files up once/wk. Told her to write down each folder that she makes a change to.

Seems impossible to determine what folders have been changed in File Explorer. Just shows the dates on each folder when the folder was created.

You copy the whole bit, and it takes a while and File Explorer starts throwing "copies" of folders all over the place.

Ralph
 
   / No mo' hard drives #49  
Also, don't defrag a SSD. It will just bring the failure date closer, and does nothing for the drive throughput.
 
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Also, don't defrag a SSD. It will just bring the failure date closer, and does nothing for the drive throughput.

I was thinking the same thing when I read about that. Glad you clarified it.
 
   / No mo' hard drives #51  
Already made that mistake, but I didn't know it from time sadly. I was panicking, didn't know what to do, because the files were very important and I thought that there is no way to recover them somehow. I went searching on the internet, and this is how I discovered DATA RECOVERY service, and thanks to them everything is all right now. I've got all the files back, and now I am saved from working on them again, a lot of time invested and everything could have been in vain.
 
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   / No mo' hard drives #52  
Wife's Dell computer failed last night. Only 4 years old. Don't know whether it is the power unit or hard drive. Will remove hard drive before recycling and plug it in and see if it works.

Bought her a Dell all-in-one mainly because it was 1 left at Bestbuy and has what I want, very much like the HP all-in-one I'm working on. About $800 for pooter, new Office and video/USB adaptor to use her old screen as a 2nd like I have here on the HP.

No hard drive in either one. A fairly big fixed drive but with 1 TB of cloud storage. Picture attached is similar to what it looks like but in black and 2 legs instead of legs across. CPU and all are behind the monitor. Like these. Down side is USB inputs are all on the back, and flash card insert is behind the on/off switch underneath. Wireless kb and mouse.

Spent the whole day except for brief lunch and our hour hike about 1 setting the thing up: one glitzch after another; it seemed. Then wife complains that her Ivy Farm notes aren't there. That's cuz I elected to only install her calendar and contacts in Outlook, not the big PST file.

Ralph
My hard drive failed in my Dell all in one after 6 years. I had a computer repair store install a solid state drive for $200. It runs faster now and better than new.
 
   / No mo' hard drives #54  
I would never use cloud storage for anything expect what you don't mind not having access to. It's to easy to be held for ransom.
Oh have I got bad news for you. You bank balance, investment accounts, social security account, all your video streaming and this website are “in the cloud”. Cloud storage is just a drive that isn’t in your house, and it’s almost always more reliable than the cheap drive in your home PC. For one thing, it gets backed up regularly.
 
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Both my wife and I have all-in-one machines with solid state drives. Boot up so much faster. Hers is a Dell. Mine is HP.
 
   / No mo' hard drives #56  
Both my wife and I have all-in-one machines with solid state drives. Boot up so much faster. Hers is a Dell. Mine is HP.
I've been building apps for 35 years and I have all manner of computers. For non-work stuff my go to device is an iPad with a keyboard cover. It's always on, it just works and it has a SIM card so I can use it anywhere ($10 a month for additional SIM on my phone plan)
 
   / No mo' hard drives #57  
I think I will stick with hard drives and back ups. I am migrating to SSDs.
No SSD's yet, but I'm sticking with hard drives
The "cloud" can be (probably already has been) hacked, and there's data I keep under my control
 
   / No mo' hard drives #58  
Oh have I got bad news for you. You bank balance, investment accounts, social security account, all your video streaming and this website are “in the cloud”. Cloud storage is just a drive that isn’t in your house, and it’s almost always more reliable than the cheap drive in your home PC. For one thing, it gets backed up regularly.
Not only that but unless you're storing your backups offsite then you're exposing yourself to data loss. Worked with a guy who thought backing up to a 2nd external drive was enough until someone broke into his house and stole all his equipment. Countless years of family pics and other irreplaceable data gone forever. A house fire could do the same. There's no rational reason to fear cloud storage as long as you're using a legit company like MSFT or Google. Their cloud servers are better protected and more secure in every conceivable way compared to the PC in your house.

As to SSDs, I've been using them since they first were a thing and have experienced 0 failures in all that time. Seen plenty of mechanical HD failures though.
 
   / No mo' hard drives #59  
I haven't had a hard drive in a computer in 2 Lenovos and a Dell ago. I would never own another new hard drive computer. Take my word for it, They don't travel well. Crashed 3 hard drives from so much travel and handling. However, I have an old Dell Latitude running XP that I have hauled around and shipped everywhere and it's still going. I only use it to attach and program my voltage regulators. I guess they just don't make em like that anymore.
 
   / No mo' hard drives #60  
Some myths about computers.

You can't RAID an SSD..... Yes, you can.

Multi cores and hyper-threading make a computer faster. No they don't. They help by off loading back ground tasks, so the computer doesn't slow down. Your computer is only as fast as its clock speed, and the speed of its different buses and the level of its various interfaces. Very few applications are designed for parallel processing. Multi cores do not SPEED UP a machine.

You can wipe clean an SSD of all data. Nope. Every manufacturer has their own mapping system. There is no, approved, DOD method of wiping an SSD or any form of SS memory. I have been able to recover many of these, under direction from the owners, to recover, even after they have run Darik's Nuk'em.

Recycling centers love it when you drill holes in your old hard drives. No. We hate you. And we hate you with a passion when you drop off this little gift full of silicon shards that we then have to bag as hazardous waste. For god's sake, just press the central spindle on a bearing press till you hear it crack the frame. Or slam the central spindle with a hammer, but stop drilling them, and stop shooting them.

Speaking of drills, a reading device, like a floppy drive with no disk or a USB port, or RAM memory, or the CPU doesn't contain any information. Maybe the NSA could recover something, but you need millions of dollars of equipment to do that.

We once got a machine that had been drilled, they drilled the motherboard, they drilled the power supply, they snapped all the ram in half, they drilled the floppy drives, the GPU card, the network card, bent all the pins on the CPU, and mangled all the ports with a screwdriver. The only thing left functioning was the 500 GB hard drive. Curious, I ran a preliminary
scan on the hard drive, cause these were valuable at the time... which doesn't give any info, but can tell if info is there. And it was completely intact and not wiped and passed the performance tests. So we wiped it, and resold it.

MS operating systems are secure if you use an admin password. No. No. No they are not. :) MS is so terrible at security, that if a client, didn't know their password for admin or some other account, it was easier, to run cracking soft, see it, and then tell them what the password was then to have them play phone tag at guessing what it was. 8 minutes and I'm in. Other wise just put the drive in a Linux environment and read it anyway.

Just know that a recycle site, or a refurbisher, can not say honestly if they can wipe your SSD, M.2 Stick, or board level SS memory. We really can't be sure.
 

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