No Need to Trailer when hauling tractor?

   / No Need to Trailer when hauling tractor? #51  
I've ignored this post.

it finally dawned on me why?

its just another potential candidate for a Darwin Award.
 
   / No Need to Trailer when hauling tractor? #52  
i see guys with riding lawnmowers in the backs of there trucks all the time, dont see how this one is diffrent.... :D (little tinny subcompact want-a-be)
 
   / No Need to Trailer when hauling tractor? #53  
Need to know what brand unit it is so we can get a handle on the weight, since it's being loaded at a Toro facility, maybe it's just a beefed up riding mower. I don't think it would weigh any more that a Lincoln welder, and you see these in the back of pickups all the time around here, along with all the other junk wanna be welders carry around.
 
   / No Need to Trailer when hauling tractor? #54  
schmism said:
i see guys with riding lawnmowers in the backs of there trucks all the time, dont see how this one is diffrent.... :D (little tinny subcompact want-a-be)

You should be careful not to offend. I am a scut owner:D I would correct you by saying that a SCUT is a CUT wanna be. A garden tractor would be a SCUT wanna be.

Also, I belielve that is a NH SCUT. It probably weighs around 1200+lbs without the loader. Add 400+lbs for the loader and there you have the weigh. I also see no problem with this as long as the driver is careful and treats this as the rare exception instead on the norm.
 
   / No Need to Trailer when hauling tractor? #55  
kwolfe said:
You should be careful not to offend. I am a scut owner:D

:p :p

ya i know you guys are devout "im just like you big boys"
 
   / No Need to Trailer when hauling tractor? #56  
Going back a few posts here -- it is human nature to think we are better than most others at things we do. The majority of drivers, especially males under 35, think they are better than most others on the road. What makes a good driver?

IMHO, it's the ability to smoothly blend in with the traffic, to travel safely and quickly from point A to point B carrying whatever load you can while neither inconveniencing nor endangering others with whom you share the road. A good driver is not the one who is noticed by others, it's the one who is simply there, not in your way, not causing you to change your intended path of travel, to speed up, or to slow down.
 
   / No Need to Trailer when hauling tractor? #57  
kwolfe said:
You should be careful not to offend. I am a scut owner:D I would correct you by saying that a SCUT is a CUT wanna be. A garden tractor would be a SCUT wanna be.

Also, I belielve that is a NH SCUT. It probably weighs around 1200+lbs without the loader. Add 400+lbs for the loader and there you have the weigh. I also see no problem with this as long as the driver is careful and treats this as the rare exception instead on the norm.

It appears to be a NH Scut with a loader. As I said earlier in the post, it weighs 1885-1894 dry.
The lightest payload capacity listed for a GM 1/2 ton is 1952lbs. 1/2 ton GM payload goes well into the 2000lbs range on some models. The 1952lbs is the lowest rated payload of the GM line.
This tractor is 58lbs less than the lowest 1/2 ton payload rating. Add in the drivers weight and fluids and he is probably no more than 200lbs over the payload rating.
[EDIT: Actually I miss read. The payload for the short box 1500 is the highest (1952), because its the lightest model. The payload for the larger 1/2 ton trucks is less. It goes over 2000 for the 3/4 ton trucks.]
Is it heavy for that truck, Sure it is.
Is it dangerous, I guess anything is dangerous in the wrong hands, but just based on the numbers, I dont see a real danger. I also dont see the tires blowing out or the brakes not being adequate. I also dont believe that load is unstable and I dont believe the front end is "floating". It looks to me like the front end has just as much weight on it after the tractor is loaded as it did before it was loaded.
Those are my thoughts, you dont have to agree, I expect most wont agree, thats fine, i appreciate that. What I dont appreciate is someone attempting to belittle my judgement by touting their many, many years of "claimed" experience when they know nothing more and nothing less than I about the truck, the driver, the tractor or the situation in general.
My appologies for contributing in ruining this thread.
 
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   / No Need to Trailer when hauling tractor? #58  
RayH said:
It appears to be a NH Scut with a loader. As I said earlier in the post, it weighs 1885-1894 dry.
The lightest payload capacity listed for a GM 1/2 ton is 1952lbs. 1/2 ton GM payload goes well into the 2000lbs range on some models. The 1952lbs is the lowest rated payload of the GM line.
This tractor is 58lbs less than the lowest 1/2 ton payload rating. Add in the drivers weight and fluids and he is probably no more than 200lbs over the payload rating.
Is it heavy for that truck, Sure it is.
Is it dangerous, I guess anything is dangerous in the wrong hands, but just based on the numbers, I dont see a real danger. I also dont see the tires blowing out or the brakes not being adequate. I also dont believe that load is unstable and I dont believe the front end is "floating". It looks to me like the front end has just as much weight on it after the tractor is loaded as it did before it was loaded.
Those are my thoughts, you dont have to agree, I expect most wont agree, thats fine, i appreciate that. What I dont appreciate is someone attempting to belittle my judgement by touting their many, many years of "claimed" experience when they know nothing more and nothing less than I about the truck, the driver, the tractor or the situation in general.
My appologies for contributing in ruining this thread.
Ah, not so!! You haven't ruined anything. I ask a simple question about diesel running high/low altitude, 8 pages later they are still debating it. I'll be glad when spring gets here and we can get back to posting about tractors working rather than hypotheticals, and what if's.
 
   / No Need to Trailer when hauling tractor? #59  
BTDT said:
Ah, not so!! You haven't ruined anything. I ask a simple question about diesel running high/low altitude, 8 pages later they are still debating it. I'll be glad when spring gets here and we can get back to posting about tractors working rather than hypotheticals, and what if's.

Ok, maybe "ruined" was a bad word choice.
I contributed in the thread going in a bad direction.
At least it can be amusing at times. Please feel free to be amused.
 
   / No Need to Trailer when hauling tractor? #60  
BTDT said:
Ah, not so!! You haven't ruined anything. I ask a simple question about diesel running high/low altitude, 8 pages later they are still debating it. QUOTE]

did you ever find the answer you wanted?
 

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