Buying Advice nortrac 25xt fel

[namesray]

hi. is there anyone out there that owns a nortrac 25xt with fel. now these are the newer nortracs northern tool sells. they are renamed fotons not the renamed jinmas northern use to sell. they switched about 3 years ago. i am looking for further details on these xt models and have only come across very little information. i would like someone who owns one to tell me what they think of nortracs, their experience with northern tool, and how they use the tractor, things like that. (have made 7-8 calls to northern tools/ nortrac and looked at their website and other tractor forums and such. none of them have had much info. must not be too many of them out there?) i know some of the specs but strongly question durability, longevity, and parts availabilty. any feed back would be greatly appreciated. thank you.

 

[Affordable]

Foton makes a great tractor, there 20 and 25 hp have a lighter front drive than the Jinmas,I would not worry about parts,we keep alot of them in stock, they are also using the Laidong LL380 or the KM385 Tier IV engine which is the same engine Jinma is using now,they have changed up the transmission parts some but Northern as a large selection of parts too.We work with Northern tool all the time and between us we have or can get any part you would ever need for these tractors

Tommy
Affordable Tractor Sales
"Your Jinma Parts Superstore"
Home of compact Jinma, Foton, and Koyker Tractors and Parts, Wood Chippers, Backhoes - Affordable Tractor Sales Company

 

[Martian]

There's not many put there because not many people want them. I'm sure they will do, but I'd look to a major brand. I would never by a tractor out of a magazine or an online store for that matter. Go to a dealer in your area. Pay a little more and get quality and quality service. Nothing against them, I just wouldn't buy one.

 

[the6shooter]

I myself would not ever look at a chineese tractor like these, I looked at them before, I made my choice, and I would say if you can get something of quality, these are (throw away tractors) take your time and shop nice and slow. But RUN as fast as you can from these boat anchors.
david

 

[Bob Rooks]

Well, there are two posts from unqualified individuals that cannot speak from ownership experience or cite substantiated data, just plain 'ol ignorance and prejudice. :ashamed:

 

[Martian]

Well, there are two posts from unqualified individuals that cannot speak from ownership experience or cite substantiated data, just plain 'ol ignorance and prejudice. :ashamed:

I'd say some advise on why we didn't get them is better than no one responding at all:thumbsup:

 

[Diamondpilot]

Yep....:confused2:

My POS 2003 Jinma has been rock solid. Only repair in 850 hours is a starter and a thermostat. Yes, I did bust a hydro line but that was my fault.

Its a tough simple tractor. Basically new 1960's design. Dont get me wrong, my neighbor has a Ford, my uncle has a JD, and my buddy has a Case all 30 to 35 HP by my 284 Jinma will work circles around them. Simply its heavy like tractor used to be. It was 1500# more than the next closest one.

I also have a 45 HP NH 2 wheel drive tractor and the only thing it has on the Jinma is PTO HP. The Jinma will out work it any day of the week and pull it around backwards on Sundays.

Chris

 

[Smalljobs]

I'll bet if we require all the "USA made" compact tractor diesels to be all American made, they'd have no engines.

 

[Martian]

Yep....:confused2:

My POS 2003 Jinma has been rock solid. Only repair in 850 hours is a starter and a thermostat. Yes, I did bust a hydro line but that was my fault.

Its a tough simple tractor. Basically new 1960's design. Dont get me wrong, my neighbor has a Ford, my uncle has a JD, and my buddy has a Case all 30 to 35 HP by my 284 Jinma will work circles around them. Simply its heavy like tractor used to be. It was 1500# more than the next closest one.

I also have a 45 HP NH 2 wheel drive tractor and the only thing it has on the Jinma is PTO HP. The Jinma will out work it any day of the week and pull it around backwards on Sundays.

Chris

I would be more apt to buy the nortracs when jinma but now are foton, which I believe to not as good of quality as the jinmas. I did like the jinmas more though.

 

[Bob Rooks]

I'd say some advise on why we didn't get them is better than no one responding at all:thumbsup:

You don't even know why you didn't "get them".
You didn't state any facts, just "beliefs" and hearsay. Neither of which is credible, and makes your opinions even less credible. :thumbsup:

Like I said: "just plain 'ol ignorance and prejudice".

 

[Smalljobs]

"I myself would not ever look at a chineese tractor like these, I looked at them before, I made my choice, and I would say if you can get something of quality, these are (throw away tractors) take your time and shop nice and slow. But RUN as fast as you can from these boat anchors.
david "

.....Spoken with real knowledge.

I've been to the Jinma/Mahindra factory and here's where they make these POS "throw away" tractor "boat anchors"

Take a look:

 

[Bob Rooks]

I'll bet if we require all the "USA made" compact tractor diesels to be all American made, they'd have no engines.

I beg to differ Steve. There probably wouldn't be any tractors either. I think MTD and Struck are the last holdouts. :laughing:

 

[Martian]

You don't even know why you didn't "get them".
You didn't state any facts, just "beliefs" and hearsay. Neither of which is credible, and makes your opinion even less credible. :thumbsup:

I'm sorry. Then here it is;

I believe in dealer support. JD has 20 dealers within 50 miles. Buying a piece of equipment worth thousands out of a magazine was not an option for me.

I wanted an easy to use feature rich tractor. Hydrostatic, digital display, ergonomic layout. JD offered me all and Nortrac none.

Easily removable bucket and loader. Too my knowledge they are pin on buckets and loader isn't nearly as easy too take off.

Mid PTO. JD did, Nortrac didn't.

Availability of parts, goes with the dealer support as well.

None of these deal with the power of a Nortrac or quality of build (although IMO JD has a better build quality) but the tractor as a whole. JD offered me much more, so I bought one.

 

[Bob Rooks]

I'm sorry. Then here it is;

I believe in dealer support. JD has 20 dealers within 50 miles. Buying a piece of equipment worth thousands out of a magazine was not an option for me.

I wanted an easy to use feature rich tractor. Hydrostatic, digital display, ergonomic layout. JD offered me all and Nortrac none.

Easily removable bucket and loader. Too my knowledge they are pin on buckets and loader isn't nearly as easy too take off.

Mid PTO. JD did, Nortrac didn't.

Availability of parts, goes with the dealer support as well.

None of these deal with the power of a Nortrac or quality of build (although IMO JD has a better build quality) but the tractor as a whole. JD offered me much more, so I bought one.

Excellent! You could have said all that simply by not posting anything. The Nortrac simply did not offer the convenience features you wanted. You looked no further into the Nortrac to see the true value. You are obviously not mechanically inclined so you do require a lot of local support. So be it.
Your opinion is still not based on ownership experience and is still "just plain 'ol ignorance and prejudice". I will even speculate that neither of you ever took a Foton or Jinma for a demo.

PS: Check your JD over real close and note where it's stamped "Made in China".

 

[Martian]

Could you tell us what your experience had been with Nortracs then? I see you have one in your avatar.

To let you know I was considering one of the Nortrac dozers a couple years ago but bought the 3120 instead. I needed a fel. And no I never tested a Nortrac because the didn't fit my specs at all. And as for my tractor it has USA labeled on it...

 

[Smalljobs]

PS: Check your JD over real close and note where it's stamped "Made in China".

Bob, you forgot to include, "Made in India" along with "Made in China" for JD.

 

[Bob Rooks]

Could you tell us what your experience had been with Nortracs then? I see you have one in your avatar.

Gladly. To be more specific it is a Yuchai (formerly Guilin), which Northern Tool re-brands as Nortrac. Other companies re-brand it as well.
It is the approximate equivalent of a Cat D2 (albeit much more refined), Mitsubishi BD-2G, JD 330, or Komatsu D31, but is the only one in production that offers a quick-change FEL, and the only one that offers a live three-point hitch and ROPS as standard equipment. The Mitsubishi BD-2's and JD's are no longer in production, and the Komatsu is sold as a grey market machine. I have made many mods and upgrades to it to fit my specific needs, and am happy to say that there is almost 600 hours on the meter with no issues at all except for the ones I asked for. Yes, I am very pleased with it and parts availability has not been an issue at all. Almost any part I want is only a few days away.

I see by your avatar you have a truck. It appears to be a Ford. I have one too, a F-350 LWB 4x4 DRW 6.4L Lariat crew cab. Love it!

 

[Bob Rooks]

And as for my tractor it has USA labeled on it...

"Assembled in USA with components made in China, India, Taiwan, Bangladesh, Mexico, and wherever there is cheap labor to maximize corporate profits and take away American production jobs".

 

[Bob Rooks]

Well, I just couldn't just let this slide...

And no I never tested a Nortrac because the didn't fit my specs at all.

The truth comes out.
Then by all accounts do you have reason to bash them??
I think not.
I stand by what I said earlier: "Just plain 'ol ignorance and prejudice".
I really don't see what either of you two are doing on this thread if there is nothing here that interests you, unless you are just trolling.
I digress.

 

[20 20]

Well, there are two posts from unqualified individuals that cannot speak from ownership experience or cite substantiated data, just plain 'ol ignorance and prejudice. :ashamed:

:thumbsup: :thumbsup: thanks for the post Bob, I'll 2nd it.