Not to start an argument..............

[two_bit_score]

robertwhite,

If you want to see what put Deere in the top billing with tractors go to Tractordata and look up the original price for Deere 4020's. Then go to Tractorhouse and do a search for 4020's. Almost all of the listings are for more than their original selling price, really good ones are almost three times that. Not the case for all Deere models but if you take care of them the resale certainly offsets the small increase in original price.

That is a really good point.

 

[MikePA]

That is a really good point.

robertwhite said he wasn't interested in resale value.

 

[two_bit_score]

robertwhite said he wasn't interested in resale value.

my apologies to robertwhite but it's still a good point.

 

[MikePA]

my apologies to robertwhite but it's still a good point.

I agree but when the OP doesn't want to discuss resale or the dealer and seems to already believe there's no difference in reliability, there's not much left to discuss but price. :laughing:

 

[Lt CHEG]

I don't know, maybe it's because I'm picky but I was able to tell some very big differences in virtually all the tractors that I looked at before I bought my NH. Granted I didn't look at Kioti, Mahindra or any of the other smaller brands, but that was because they weren't represented in my area and there were numerous dealers for NH, MF, JD, IH and Kubota. Anyway, just because say a NH Boomer 3045 and a JD 4320 appeared roughly equivalent as far as specifications, I found them to be very different tractors. I didn't really like the JD's because their cabs were much smaller than NH and MF, and to me they even felt smaller than the Kubotas. Also they were by far the most narrow in stance and I didn't like that so I personally wouldn't consider them equivalent to something else. Similarly I found some things like Kubota's hydro pedal placement to be different enough that I felt that even though specification wise, a certain model Kubota may be equivalent to say a certain model MF, there were significant differences. So I guess what I am saying is that money was not even close to the main reason that I bought what I bought. Frankly I wouldn't consider any two tractors (with the exception of a NH vs. CaseIH version of the same model) to be interchangeable. To me despite their proximity in price or horsepower or hydraulic flow, etc. each one of the colors was different enough from the other color that there was no "equivalent" tractor that was just painted a different color and priced differently.

 

[deputy11]

I choose a tractor brand much as I do a gun. Price is a factor but not the number one. I want one that feels right for my needs, will work hard and reliably when I need it to, and because of reputation that I have confidence in it. I keep very few things forever so there is just no way to eliminate value of resale/trade-in from any discussion on the purchase of durable goods (things designed to have a useful life of 5 years or more)

 

[TripleR]

Sorry, but your narrow parameters make this for me impossible to comment as they eliminate too much.

 

[MessickFarmEqu]

Yes with the big 4 (deere, kubota, Ford, Mahindra) .

We're a long, long way from including Mahidra in the list of major OEM's. Mahindra's total production output is a ripple in the pond compared to CNH, Deere and Kubota. Despite the amount of chest pounding they do, their total production output is around 80,000 tractors a year globally which is a pitance compared to many other companies.

 

[RPW]

Good point MFE. The reason I included them is I do see many Mahindras in my area. Mostly on the road crews. So maybe it's also a regional thing.

 

[robertwhite]

OK, got a perfect example of what I am talking about when I visited a JD dealer today.

I was quoted $25K for a JD 3320 w/FEL. :confused2: $25K for a 32hp JD with a Yanmar engine. WAAAAAY overpriced when compared to even a bigger L4400 Kubota, nevermind the smaller L's.

Features are all pretty close, yet the bigger L4400 w/FEL can easily be had for right around $23K (or less). As someone also mentioned, the JD cabin seems really cramped too.

If we compare apples to apples, the Kubota L3400 (which has a couple more hp than the JD3320) then there is a huge price difference. The L3400 w/FEL is in the $17.5K range.

That is more than $7K difference. How in the world can a JD be worth $7K more than a comparable Kubota, nevermind a CC/Yanmar which would be an even bigger price difference?

I am not knocking JD, I am just trying to figure out the reason. Yes, JD has been around forever, but guess what? That doesn't account for that kind of price difference in my mind, especially when the nearest JD dealer is 30 miles from my place.