Novice help: planting things, plow/disk or harrow?

   / Novice help: planting things, plow/disk or harrow? #21  
It's hard to tell someone else what to do but I can tell you what I would do. I'd do whatever made me happy. I like to turn the soil so if it isn't in a place that is bad to erode then I'd pick me up a used 2 bottom plow and if I was worried about hanging rocks I'd get a plow with trip beams. I'd definitely get a 2 bottom for that size tractor because I had rather plow at a faster clip with a smaller plow than have to lug a 3 bottom around in hard soils. I don't know how much horsepower the tractor has but it doesn't have enough weight to handle a 3 bottom plow in heavy soil. Buy a good plow that is in good shape, it will pull easier, follow better, and leave the surface smoother once you learn how to set it properly. I'd also find me a good used 3pt hitch disk just wide enough to cut out the tractor tracks because an 8ft. disk can be a load especially in freshly turned ground. I like a loose framed disk like the old Massey Ferguson pipe framed disk because they will follow the contour of the land better. If you shop wisely you can pick both the plow and the disk cheaper than the tiller. You might have to fill the back tires to gain some additional weight but this isn't really difficult. I wouldn't use calcium though. Like I said before plowing is one of my favorite activities on a tractor. It does require more attention and is more hands on than other tractor work but it is not hard. I'd plow and disk the ground then I'd fertilize it, then I'd disk it again and broadcast my grass seed and disk it one final time with the disks set straight so they will cover the seed but not deep. I would wait till the fall to sow any grass and until that time you can plant you some garden items. One note of caution, don't get anxious and work the ground while it is too wet. You never will get all the clods broken up.
 
   / Novice help: planting things, plow/disk or harrow?
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#22  
Challenger

Thanks so much for the information. I wish I could find a good text book on farming practices such as "contour plowing". I have such limited time I'd like to read up in the middle of the night on it. Sitting on this computer learning is less than ideal for me. I've looked for used 2 bottoms and discs, but MAN O MAN are they scarce! New two bottoms and discs up here in upstate NY are only about 10 to 15% more, than good condition used one's, so I'd rather buy new and keep them a while. The steel surcharge is starting to affect everything. The used stuff is going up in response to sharp shopping pressure. Thanks for the help. I'm going to do what makes me happy, which is sit on my tractor!
 
   / Novice help: planting things, plow/disk or harrow? #23  
Most of the new turning plows aren't worth a dime. The old ones such as the IHs and Masseys were made to be used by farmers, the way a plow should be made. Most of the new ones, don't even have any adjustments.
 
   / Novice help: planting things, plow/disk or harrow?
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#24  
See, I didn't even know there were "old style" and "new style" turning plows. So much to learn, so little time.
 
   / Novice help: planting things, plow/disk or harrow? #25  
Where do you live in NY? I keep finding 2 bottom plows at auctions but never bid on any because I don't need something that small. As for the disc, I have a disc like described as well as 2 transport discs, I do not like the trailer discs because you need to add a lot of weight to them to get them to cut good. Same with a 3pt disc. A transport disc will cut great because it has more weight and the gangs are fixed so when you hit a stone they don't jump out of the ground and bounce like a trailer disc does. Try to find a 6' disc and if you can't find a transport then get a trailer disc and try that for a while. You can always build a frame around it in the future.
 
   / Novice help: planting things, plow/disk or harrow? #26  
Have you considered a drawbar pull plough? They should have a trip realease for when you hit rocks. Probably handle easier and adjust easier for ploughing. Not as handy for turning at the ends. It may also be easier to find an old one. In farming areas that I am familiar with few people had three point hitch ploughs.

Breaking sod and plowing a farmed field usually require different moleboards. The standard will work for sod but be rougher when disking.

For contour ploughing you just go around the hill at 90 degrees to the slope. This is so there are lots of ridges to stop water from being able to run straight down following a furrow or other impliment tracks.

Egon
 
   / Novice help: planting things, plow/disk or harrow?
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#27  
Thanks Robert and Egon. I live in upstate outside Binghamton. I hadn't considered a drawbar plow, since I didn't know they exist. Confused about discs also. I see there are adjustable ones and square frame ones with different prices. Looking forward to playing a bit. Can't wait to take delivery.
 
   / Novice help: planting things, plow/disk or harrow? #28  
If you look around you may find what we used to call a Tiller. It has larger discs than the discs you are thinking of. The discs are in one straight line and fixed at a permanent angle. It sort of looks like a plough but has rotating discs instead.

For your use it may pull easier and do a better job than the discs that are now used. From my area and knowledge base the tractor pulled discs became popular when the tractor HP was greatly increased.

Egon
 

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