Mowing nx4510 rotary cutter question
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LD1
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Only think I will say, and perhaps in defense of the dealer, is 1200# of cutter, no front weight, and hills may make for some wheelies.
But not likely.
My 1100# 6' has plenty of front weight on my 300# lighter tractor.
My 1600# cutter makes it light enough you cannot load forward on a deck-over trailer, but when mowing....no issues as the cutter tailwheels are supporting most of the weight.
And worst case....put the loader on and you have plenty of front weight
But not likely.
My 1100# 6' has plenty of front weight on my 300# lighter tractor.
My 1600# cutter makes it light enough you cannot load forward on a deck-over trailer, but when mowing....no issues as the cutter tailwheels are supporting most of the weight.
And worst case....put the loader on and you have plenty of front weight
DieselBound
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I agree with most of what is said here. But, sometimes even with a tail wheel you'll still run into situations where you're dragging the weight more on the skids than the wheel (undulating ground with closely spaced peaks and troughs will do that), which can present a little extra strain. My B7800 has loaded tires and sometimes when I'm dragging my "light duty" 5' rotary around the mower will stop the tractor if it gets into situations like I mention: I either lift the mower up a bit or switch to 4wd, preferring the later because the stupid 3pt quarter-inching valves on these cheap B models takes a lot of work to reposition height with. I'll see how the "new" (recently acquired) Landpride RCR1860 does on the B7800- it's a fair bit heavier mower: got it because I find the quick hitch pin setups easier to deal with (even though I don't use quick hitches anymore); and I figure this mower will have to do some time behind my new NX until I figure out what I really need for it! (would not risk my other mower on the NX)
I have worked my "light duty" cutter really hard: and it's got the same set of blades I bought it with (going on six years now)! It's cleared a lot of land. Only after I blaze some trails am I able to see what nasties are really there, and at that point I will, if I need to, bring in heavy equipment to deal with them. I'll also offer up a point that I don't see anyone bring up, and that's that sometimes it's not a good idea to bring in a lot of equipment and do big scale changes, lest it brings unwanted attention to what you're doing. I'm very glad that I took the slow approach as had I went nuts early on I'd have gotten things wrong: it's beneficial to get to know the land real well; my slow clearing has, I believe, allowed me to make better decisions.
I have worked my "light duty" cutter really hard: and it's got the same set of blades I bought it with (going on six years now)! It's cleared a lot of land. Only after I blaze some trails am I able to see what nasties are really there, and at that point I will, if I need to, bring in heavy equipment to deal with them. I'll also offer up a point that I don't see anyone bring up, and that's that sometimes it's not a good idea to bring in a lot of equipment and do big scale changes, lest it brings unwanted attention to what you're doing. I'm very glad that I took the slow approach as had I went nuts early on I'd have gotten things wrong: it's beneficial to get to know the land real well; my slow clearing has, I believe, allowed me to make better decisions.
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I like my 7 foot pull mower for the DK 45. Heavy enough to stall the tractor if I run it in the dirt without breaking the mower. picture is 5 foot bluestem and able to mow just fine. Neighbor was talked into a light 6 foot 3 pt kubota and has sheared bolts and had the rear wheel welded twice in two years.
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I run a 6ft.brush hog model BH26 (1095 lbs)behind my 2012 Dk40 cab tractor and it does fine.By it right the first time and get a heavy duty model cutter if your funds allow you to.I made the mistake the first time of buying a cheaper brush hog and ended up buying a heavy duty one.
The owners manual (page 3-20) for an NX4510 states the following max cutting widths: box blade-84", rear blade-84", rotary cutter-65", grooming mower-72"' landscape rakes-84". Hope this info helps you, Bob
LD1
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Uncommon to find a 65" mower. They come in 60" and 72". (5' and 6')
Seems stupid to limit a 4000# 45hp tractor to the same 5' mowers that the 2500# 25HP N-series fords have mowed with for decades. And those tractors had a steep first gear and only about 800# rear lift.
Tractor MFG being a little conservative. I'd ignore that part of the manual. The kubota MX manual, which includes the MX4700, that is a little lighter, little less lift capacity, and only a few ponies more, is rated for 7' rotary cutter and 1000# max.
I still ignore it with a 1600# 8'
Do what you want, but you are gonna regret a small 5' mower on that tractor.
Seems stupid to limit a 4000# 45hp tractor to the same 5' mowers that the 2500# 25HP N-series fords have mowed with for decades. And those tractors had a steep first gear and only about 800# rear lift.
Tractor MFG being a little conservative. I'd ignore that part of the manual. The kubota MX manual, which includes the MX4700, that is a little lighter, little less lift capacity, and only a few ponies more, is rated for 7' rotary cutter and 1000# max.
I still ignore it with a 1600# 8'
Do what you want, but you are gonna regret a small 5' mower on that tractor.
yeah I'm using an old 5' right now and it's definitely to small, it pulls it like its not there, i watched a youtube video of the rhino ts12 stealth batwing and it looks like a dk40 pulling it, i called the local rhino dealer out of curiosity about one of those and of course i hear thats to much for your tractor, which I'm not considering one but good to know i guess
LD1
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Make your own decisions.
Weather something is too big or too small for your tractor has alot to do with terrain and just what you plan to cut.
Just look at the conditions they were cutting with that TS12. I have do doubt your tractor would preform equally as well.
Cutting brush over 6' tall, or trying to pull that thing up and down hills.....probably not a good match. As I mentioned, I have an 8' mounted cutter. I cut alot of stuff that looks just like that video.....12" pasture grasses. Many times I wish I had a bigger mower.
When it comes to a cutter.....My opinion is simple. Buy the biggest cutter that your tractor can "physically" handle. And by that, I dont mean HP. I mean get the biggest that you can lift or pull around your property. IF you get into an area that you dont have enough HP, you can always slow down (infinitely with a HST), or take a smaller bite.
There is a limit to how fast you can go with a smaller cutter, and you cannot make a smaller cutter take a bigger bite.
Id rather mow wider and at a slower speed, than mow narrow at a faster speed.
Weather something is too big or too small for your tractor has alot to do with terrain and just what you plan to cut.
Just look at the conditions they were cutting with that TS12. I have do doubt your tractor would preform equally as well.
Cutting brush over 6' tall, or trying to pull that thing up and down hills.....probably not a good match. As I mentioned, I have an 8' mounted cutter. I cut alot of stuff that looks just like that video.....12" pasture grasses. Many times I wish I had a bigger mower.
When it comes to a cutter.....My opinion is simple. Buy the biggest cutter that your tractor can "physically" handle. And by that, I dont mean HP. I mean get the biggest that you can lift or pull around your property. IF you get into an area that you dont have enough HP, you can always slow down (infinitely with a HST), or take a smaller bite.
There is a limit to how fast you can go with a smaller cutter, and you cannot make a smaller cutter take a bigger bite.
Id rather mow wider and at a slower speed, than mow narrow at a faster speed.
