off road diesel

[SkyPup]

Oops. Wrong answer. Do not collect $200 dollars!

The corrosion at the Prudhoe transfer lines (not the main pipeline) was due to microbes. They have to add a microbial inhibitor to the oil flow to keep control of this, yet they did not stay on top of it like they should have. That is why Governor Murkowski is ordering an investigation and possible legal action against BP.

Whoops back again, wrong answer....didn't you know that the bacteria corroding the pipelines generate all their ATP's for energy by reducing elemental SULFUR. The SULFUR they live on is in the oil, as is the acidic waste they generate too.

 

[Dargo]

Hey Skypup, since I don't know, why am I seeing the stickers on the diesel pumps saying something about <500 PPM but to NOT use in 2007 diesel vehicles or serious damage is likely or occur? What's gonna happen if someone puts that fuel in their 07 diesel? I'm sure some '07 diesels will start appearing soon.

Also, the guy at the Cummins Diesel shop where I take my old '96 12 valve 5.9 Cummins tells me that I shouldn't worry about any pump diesel I put in my truck. I think he's insulting me, but he says that my version is so "low tech" that I could practically run crude oil in it. But, hey, it's "bombed" heavily and I like it!

 

[MadReferee]

Hey Skypup, since I don't know, why am I seeing the stickers on the diesel pumps saying something about <500 PPM but to NOT use in 2007 diesel vehicles or serious damage is likely or occur? What's gonna happen if someone puts that fuel in their 07 diesel? I'm sure some '07 diesels will start appearing soon.

Also, the guy at the Cummins Diesel shop where I take my old '96 12 valve 5.9 Cummins tells me that I shouldn't worry about any pump diesel I put in my truck. I think he's insulting me, but he says that my version is so "low tech" that I could practically run crude oil in it. But, hey, it's "bombed" heavily and I like it!

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]The EPA states these new regulations will significantly reduce nitrous oxide (NOx) and particulate matter emissions to the atmosphere. To attain these emission reductions the EPA has established a comprehensive program to regulate diesel fuel along with the production of diesel engines.

The regulations require

• Model Year 2007 diesel engines will be required to use high-efficiency catalytic exhaust emission control devises (or comparably effective technology).
• On-highway diesel fuel sulfur levels be < 15ppm starting in June 2006.

It is the combination of the Model Year 2007 diesel engines and the lower sulfur diesel fuel that the EPA expects to result in reduced emissions to the atmosphere.

This was obtained form the Chevron DIesel FAQ located here:

http://www.chevron.com/products/prodserv/fuels/diesel/ulsd.shtml#A5[/FONT]

 

[Berniep]

Sounds like old deisel will hurt the catalytic device on the new engines.
Kinda like when cars with catalytic converters first came out and you ran leaded in them it would screw up your catalytic converter.

 

[Iowachild]

Sounds like old deisel will hurt the catalytic device on the new engines.
Kinda like when cars with catalytic converters first came out and you ran leaded in them it would screw up your catalytic converter.

Bingo!

 

[Marcussen]

And I thought that filling stations was suposed to put stickers on their pumps so we would know what kind of diesel is in their pumps. Only one of the four local stations have a sticker saying "low sulphur less than 500PPM". The rest has no stickers. The station where I get my off road diesel has a hand made sign saying high sulphur for off road non tax use only. The pump for taxed diesel has no sign. Pretty soon somebody will have a new diesel that needs the ULSD, hopefully the dealer will make sure they know that not all diesel is the same.

 

[MadReferee]

And I thought that filling stations was suposed to put stickers on their pumps so we would know what kind of diesel is in their pumps. Only one of the four local stations have a sticker saying "low sulphur less than 500PPM". The rest has no stickers. The station where I get my off road diesel has a hand made sign saying high sulphur for off road non tax use only. The pump for taxed diesel has no sign. Pretty soon somebody will have a new diesel that needs the ULSD, hopefully the dealer will make sure they know that not all diesel is the same.

Call the EPA and report the station. They are in violation of the EPA regulations.

The following was taken from the Chevron Diesel and Clean Diesel Fuel Alliance websites:

The EPA regulations require that the sulfur content of all diesel dispensers in the United States, except California, be communicated to the diesel end-users, using new dispenser labels. This includes the S15 (ULSD), S500 (LSD), and S5000 (HSD) dispensers. The EPA has defined the text for each label and provides specifications as to where the label is to be located on the dispenser. This regulation applies to any dispenser; whether it is at a retail site, commercial site, or is for company's own use.

As of June 1, 2006 each diesel dispenser (except those dispensers in California) must have a label that correctly identifies the type of diesel fuel being sold from that dispenser. Initially, for most on-highway diesel dispensers this will be the S500 (LSD) label. When a dispenser is transitioned to the new ultra low sulfur diesel fuel, the S500 (LSD) or S5000 (HSD) label must then be removed from the dispenser and replaced by an S15 (ULSD) label.

In California, the state has mandated that ULSD be the only fuel available. Therefore, the EPA has exempted California from labeling dispenser pumps.

The new standards provide strong incentives for suppliers to provide the proper ULSD fuel formulation. Civil penalties of up to $32,500 per violation per day can be assessed for non-compliance with EPA’s ULSD fuel standards, or for misrepresentation of the sulfur level of diesel fuel.

 

[Marcussen]

Call the EPA and report the station. They are in violation of the EPA regulations.

I did contact my local EPA office and was told that retail enforcement of the labeling will begin 1 Oct. '06. That's when retailer must begin to offer ULSD. Until their tanks are able to meet the 15PPM ULSD requirement (because of mixing with LSD) they must display the less than 500PPM label.