oil plug came out

[cast_and_blast]

I don't know. If it were mine I might be able to make a case for a defective oil plug. There might even be a recall on plugs. Or how about a; " The engine doesn't seem to run right? Mr dealer, check it out and tell me what's wrong." What obligation do we have to tell their people what's wrong. They never want to know anyway. Besides, it don't cost the dealer anything. In fact it makes $$ for the shop.

Cheers

coffeeman -

I respectfully disagree. It would be dishonest to not disclose to the dealer what was known about this issue. I think having NO OIL in the engine for a period of time would be something that the dealer would want to know. I think the consumer changing the oil and then having the oil plug fall out (maybe it was not tightened, cross-threaded, stripped, etc.) would be something the dealer would want to know. It may not cost the dealer anything but it surely will cost the consumers (delay in service, warranty claim, lack of trust between dealer and customer, etc.). The basis for doing something like this is simply to try to "dupe" the dealer into thinking that it's a warranty claim and, hopefully, having them cover the potential repair. In the end, this just comes back to the consumer in the form of lesser warranties, cheaper components and higher prices - it's not free. I'm sorry, but that just is not right.

In my opinion, this is a major problem in today's society; there is the overwhelming theme that every problem or "bump in the road" in life is someone else's fault.

Good Luck -

Scott

 

[SkyPup]

Did the oil plug fall out and stay fallen out during the first oil change?

The reason I ask is my idiot nephew changed the oil on his new unpaid for Mustang and then the engine froze up. Apparently he drained all the old oil out for the first oil change and then poured the new oil in the engine and then put the oil plug in (after the new oil had drained out).

He asked to borrow $3K from me for a new engine (his was only six months old). I called his mom and she let me know it was 100% his fault, I said, in that case he can either pay for it himself....or walk or ride a bike.

 

[firemanpat2910]

I don't know. If it were mine I might be able to make a case for a defective oil plug. There might even be a recall on plugs. Or how about a; " The engine doesn't seem to run right? Mr dealer, check it out and tell me what's wrong." What obligation do we have to tell their people what's wrong. They never want to know anyway. Besides, it don't cost the dealer anything. In fact it makes $$ for the shop.

Cheers

I will make no comment on this as per the terms I agreed to when starting to post here. to the orriginal poster, seems like you just spent a lot of money on an oil change as previously mentioned do not start it again, take it to your dealer,tell them what happened, see what they advise. anything else is just wrong in my opinion.

 

[MikeD74T]

One of my coworkers' son runs a towing business. Last week coworker came to work with a funny story. He does all his own oil changes etc. When he changed the oil in his wife's new Chevy he forgot to reset the oil life timer. When the "change oil "light came on she knew the oil had just been changed & because he's working six 13 hour shifts per week she didn't mention that the light was on. A few days later the car went into "limp mode" and eventually stopped running. She couldn't reach her son & had to have a competitor tow her car to get the computer reset. Coworker was in the doghouse. MikeD74T

Coffeeman, In this case there was adequate engine oil. The computer thought the oil was beyond it's useful life & limited the car to 10 MPH. No harm to the car, just to owners pocket book for tow to dealership to reset computer . MikeD74T

 

[Marcussen]

My daughter had an F-150 pick-up and the oil light came on. She took it to my father in laws house and he "checked" the oil and said its OK probably just a light problem. She drove it home (28 miles). When I looked under the truck there was oil all under there and no oil in the engine at least not on the dipstick. I put 4 quarts of oil in it and the dipstick was OK. (it hold 5 quarts). I finaly figured out that the oil pan gasket was leaking at highway speeds. Fixed the leak and drove the truck for another year and 10000 miles then traded it in, when I sold it had 50000 miles on it. I am sure the life of the engine was reduced drasticaly, but there was no problems when I traded it.

 

[coffeeman]

Seems to be a lot of responses so I'm just picking this post at random for a thought or two.

If you guys read carefully I never said do something dishonest. The key words here are "might" "make a case" for defective plug. What gets me is; not one of you out there can even conceive the possibility of a defective plug. But, it happened to me. Grandson has a go cart. The first week he used it the oil fill plug came off and a lot of the oil spewed out the back. The plug is in the back. Took a few minutes and searched ground and found plug. Filled up oil and put plug back on and it didn't fit. It wasn't striped it was the wrong size. It was a plastic cap undersized just big enough to catch but not be secure while running engine. Took it back to dealer who sold it. He laughed at me. It's not his fault. You left the cap off and you want a new cart because of your mistake. My mistake was being honest with dealer. I don't know how or why the wrong sized plug. May have been mixed up when put together at their shop. But I didn't do it. Bottom line, oil plugs could be wrong. By the way, cart is still running after 5 summers. I guess we noticed plug off before any damage.

How many times have you taken something to dealer and explained what was wrong and they replace things that they shouldn't have. Just had a GM dealer recommend I replace brake pads on my car. They passed safety inspection but the dealer wanted to replace them anyway. Got the car home and the brake pads were 60% good. I'm sorry I feel this way but, I would guess the dealers "dupe" the public 5 times more often than the public gets over on dealer. That doesn't mean cheat dealer. However, customer should have benefit of doubt. In addition, I'm not saying because dealer "might" do 5 wrongs it gives us customers a license to do one wrong. On thing for sure, customers will never get ahead of dishonest dealers anyway. Many dealers say, "Let the buyer beware." Again, another thing not one of the folks posting even consider. Maybe some of the blame for consumer feelings is shoddy work and treatment from dealers; therefore, we should be able to blame him.

Don't get mad now, it's just lively banter.

Cheers.....coffeeman

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coffeeman -

I respectfully disagree. It would be dishonest to not disclose to the dealer what was known about this issue. I think having NO OIL in the engine for a period of time would be something that the dealer would want to know. I think the consumer changing the oil and then having the oil plug fall out (maybe it was not tightened, cross-threaded, stripped, etc.) would be something the dealer would want to know. It may not cost the dealer anything but it surely will cost the consumers (delay in service, warranty claim, lack of trust between dealer and customer, etc.). The basis for doing something like this is simply to try to "dupe" the dealer into thinking that it's a warranty claim and, hopefully, having them cover the potential repair. In the end, this just comes back to the consumer in the form of lesser warranties, cheaper components and higher prices - it's not free. I'm sorry, but that just is not right.

In my opinion, this is a major problem in today's society; there is the overwhelming theme that every problem or "bump in the road" in life is someone else's fault.

Good Luck -

Scott

 

[shvl73]

Years ago (10+-?), when working in retail, I had a customers wife pull in with their late 80's Toyota pickup. It sounded like a diesel, it wasn't. I checked and the dipstick was dry. I put in over 3 quarts and she drove it home. They were still driving it 2 years ago, same engine, no major repairs done.
I hope you get lucky.

 

[Dirthog]

Any good dealer mechanic will be able to tell if it was run with out oil and for how long also doesn't take much to look at the pan and see if the plug is stripped or crossthreaded also most mfg tech dept would be able to tell you what happened very quickly they deal with these issues every day and are very good at finding out what went wrong and if they should pay or not warrenty is a BIG money issue I work for a large construction equipment dealer and the mfg are getting more careful about what they pay for warrenty

 

[Highbeam]

"Coffeeman, In this case there was adequate engine oil. The computer thought the oil was beyond it's useful life & limited the car to 10 MPH. No harm to the car, just to owners pocket book for tow to dealership to reset computer . MikeD74T"

On that new chevy all you have to do to reset the oil life monitor is turn the key on and floor the accelerator three times. Hope she didn't have to pay for a tow or she got robbed. I am startled to learn that the OLM will limp the motor.

 

[shvl73]

"Coffeeman, In this case there was adequate engine oil. The computer thought the oil was beyond it's useful life & limited the car to 10 MPH. No harm to the car, just to owners pocket book for tow to dealership to reset computer . MikeD74T"

On that new chevy all you have to do to reset the oil life monitor is turn the key on and floor the accelerator three times. Hope she didn't have to pay for a tow or she got robbed. I am startled to learn that the OLM will limp the motor.

I'm suprised that happens, as well. On my '05 Impala the oil change light has come on a few times but, I ignore it. My company has a service booklet from the lease company and we have it changed every 5,000 miles. I'm pretty sure it hasn't been reset a few times with no issues other than the light coming on.