Ok...which is it? BX2350 or B7510?

   / Ok...which is it? BX2350 or B7510? #21  
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Think the B7510 does have power steering.

Henro gave you excellent advice.

Egon /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
   / Ok...which is it? BX2350 or B7510? #22  
Another vote for the 7510. If you plan on brush hogging or snowblower work even consider a 7610. 3 more HP for not too much more $$$

As Av8r3400 has stated (and I agree) that the B series will serve you much better "off the lawn"

That said. I also believe (as do many others here) the BX is a better machine for "lawn work". It's a little smaller, so it can get into tighter places. The mowing deck is better than the B series (especially if you have soft or wet lawn). I notice that with the deck on my 7610, the rear wheels sometimes dig into the softer turf in spots. (it is, after all a 360 lb deck) With the BX "suspended" deck, this wouldn't be an issue. Of coarse, then there if that new "turf special" B series out now. I have no experience with that. (I'm just referring to the basic 60" MMM deck on the B7510/7610.

And 2 yrs ago, when I was looking for a tractor, Henro had some very valuable advice. He stated that if he had to have ONE tractor for the lawn & tractor work, (I think he has a 2910 and a BX) he'd take a small B series (7510 or 7800 size). I took that advise and am VERY happy with my 7610. Many thanks to him for that advise.

Some other advise I got here that proved to be true is that the machine that seems "too big" on the lot or when you first get it home, after 6 months seems either just right or "I wish I would have gotten even the bigger one". I thought the 7610 was way too big to use around my lawn. I now zip around with it like I'm in a Mini Cooper. Now I'm quite certain that a 7800 would be a fine fit. Then, it was an obserd consideration.

-best of luck
 
   / Ok...which is it? BX2350 or B7510? #23  
Well, I'm really glad I asked. I have been looking at our new property and realized that much of the property will be off limits to a really small tractor, or atleast it would be pushing the limits. I checked with the dealers I've been talking to and both felt like the B series is a good all around tractor/mower. While they felt like the BX is a good all around mower/tractor.

There's no denying the improvements in design of the BX over the B imo. The B has a long dependable heritage that probably means years of trouble free use with good resale. The BX may be seen too much like a mower to future buyers. But, I just like the BX package better but don't want to come up short on our property. I guess its back to the dealer tomorrow for another round of test drives.

Now, my northern dealer quoted $14200 for the 7510/fel/60"mmm/ind. tires. He quoted $15000 even for the 7610 same setup. The southern quoted $14800 on the 7510 and suggested not to consider the 7610 at $15800 when I could get the 7800 at $16800. He is better than the southern dealer on the B's but the southern dealer was $700 better on the BX....go figure. (See how the tractor elevator works. Before long I'll be riding around in a 60 hp, A/C'd cab with 1000 watt stereo system type tractor....for around $80k. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif


Keep the input coming until I get the gun out of the holster...got to pull the trigger sometime.
 
   / Ok...which is it? BX2350 or B7510? #24  
Hey Pilk, are you and IDOCPILK brothers or do you just have two screen names.. Just curious.. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

I'm pretty much stuck on the BX2350, with all the improvements, and the mere fact that I only mow 3/4, and it's hilly I might add, so the 4x4 will come in very handy. I want the FEL to just move landscape blocks, top soil and hopefully box the hard to flatten out spots where the big dump trucks have left tire tracks. So, it's pretty much a no brainer for me. Sad thing, the local dealer is nearly 2K higher than the other dealer, and another gent is interested in the same setup, so I'm hoping we can agree to buy in the same time frame so we can capitalize on the multi purchase discount that Kubota's offering.

Would anyone be very skeptical about doing the double purchase and then selling one to another person with a cashiers check or is it worth the 300.00 per machine to buy it in our own names? Since we are buying out of state, warranty issues will need to be handled by the local dealer. "God Forbid".. I suppose it would be like buying a used machine off ebay that still has a warranty left /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif.

Idoc, maybe they'll do a super duper discount for 3???

If they would offer 0-36mo, I'd go buy it tomorrow, payments for 24 wouldn't be too bad and the interest would only add up to 130.00 anyway...

Decisions decisons....
 
   / Ok...which is it? BX2350 or B7510? #25  
Yea, same ID. Just different log in names for some reason. I just went to the local dealer today and spent some time on both the BX3250 and the B7510, both HST with 60" MMM and FEL.

Keeping in mind the difference in price is $2000 even.

My impressions;
First...MOWING:
The BX is going to be the most civilized machine, but the B is just as easy to move around. They really are about the same size except for tire size. The BX is quieter when running the mower. While the B did leave some marks from the rear deck wheels on the turf it still seems to do a good job. Obviously if you change deck height often the BX is a better system. The deck wheels on the B were not hard to change but I suppose most of us would just find a happy medium and leave them alone. After checking with the dealers they felt like getting the decks off is about a push. Same process, heavier deck on the B, maybe a slight advantage to the BX.
The B deck is heavier made all the way around. It certainly seems like it would last longer on rougher ground.
All in all, if your MOST important task is mowing a fine lawn, while wanting to do some occassional light loader work, the BX makes more sense to me. Even though the B is a bigger unit I don't think the B will speed up mowing at all so mow time is going to be about the same.

Loader;
No doubt the loader capacity goes to the B, much quicker and more powerful. However, the BX loader will lift the BX front end without any hesitation. I like the design on the BX better but when it comes to loaders, power seems to be the key. The B loader will do more, easier, and with less stress on the tractor imo. THe hydrolic lines are better protected on the BX.
The quick disconnect looks like an even deal to me. The B connections are heavier looking and are located up by the control arm, maybe easier to access. The BX connections are down under the control arm and looke like they are a bit more protected.

Powerplant;
Don't let the HP ratings on these two units fool you. Although the BX is rated higher in gross HP (rated at 3200 rpm vs. 2600 on the B). Its easy to tell the B is a noticeably stouter unit. The BX engine is somewhat smoother and quieter, again...more civilized in a way. Given the fact that they weigh approximately the same, the power to weight ratio goes to the B for certain. I felt like running the BX to 3200 rpms was pushing the limits a bit. At 2600 rpm, the B certainly felt like it had more to give.

Controls;
I think they both are very intuitive. The BX is more user friendly in that the PTO can be engaged without clutching. The starter on the BX seemed more 'modern' if that makes sense. The deck is more open on the BX which helps getting on and off, which is aided by the lower profile. THe B is more 'tractor like' in that respect, which I kinda liked....you know, that feeling of getting on the old tractor for some 'work'. The B deck is still very easy and sitting up higher makes the visibility issue a non factor imo. The curved hood and loader arms on the BX are nice looking but the B had about the same visibility imo.
The rear fuel location on the BX is preferable over the hood location on the B and I suspect Kubota will move all their tractors to the 'style' of the BX over time...like the 2630 and 3030. The BX just comes off more modern.

Overall impression;

If you want a mower that the wife and kids will steal from you every time you want to use it...get the BX. I think it will do 'most' of what small property-landscaping-cleanup duties you come across. Heavy ground work, I don't know. You might come up short on some projects. You might run out of HP or traction or both at times. (Same is probably true on the B also) May be time to rent something.

If you want a capable tractor that can also mow. THe B makes more sense. It will certainly do everything the BX can do, although, maybe not as civilized with the mower, but it also should be able to handle tasks above the average saturday landscaping stuff. The BX loader will probably do more than I can imagine, but if your unsure and concerned about coming up with a job bigger than the BX can handle, you will definately feel more comfortable with the B.

Mower/tractor = BX2350 + $2000 for extras.

Tractor/mower = B7510 + the assurance you probably got 'enough' tractor to go with your mower.

I still haven't made up my mind but I can get the 7510/FEL/60" MMM for 14200. I can move to the 7610 for $15000 even. The BX2350 is $12350. Is the extra HP on the 7610 worth $800.

Enough...Kung Pow is on. Gotta go. /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif
 
   / Ok...which is it? BX2350 or B7510? #26  
To answer your question Muscle (I cannot say the word F@rd)....as soon as I decide on which unit...I'm going with the 36 months 2.99%. Does anyone know how often Kubota changes plans? I suspect they won't make any changes until 7/10 when the current plans expire. I wonder if they will get better or worse? I would love to see 36 months at 0% but I'm not holding my breath on these units. I would get in on a group buy but don't see that improving my deal much. The best deal I've gotten on the B is up north (much closer to home) while the best deal on the BX is south (100 miles futher away). I like the northern dealer as I deal directly with the owner or his son. They showed me around the dealership, took me out to the shop where they assemble and do repairs, small but clean. They have a extended hardware type store with an old school deli. He takes all the Kubota shoppers on Saturday into the deli for some free burgers. I like that place...kind of a throwback mom and pop shop.

To be continued...like it or not. /forums/images/graemlins/ooo.gif
 
   / Ok...which is it? BX2350 or B7510? #27  
Pilk -

I think you may have started another thread asking much the same question: but I think you may have found "the best of both worlds" in a B7510 "Turf Special". From what I've read - this gives you the better mowing deck of a BX - but then you would still have all the future capabilities of the larger B Series in case your needs change.

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Your other question regarding the LA352 FEL on the B7610 - I think I read that someone had gotten a B7610 with a lesser LA302 - but I specifically chose the B7610 to get the most FEL.

As you have stated that you want to get mostly a mower - with tractor capabilites on occassion - the B7510 will have plenty of power to run a mower - and since you think the BX FEL capacity would be adequate for your needs - I don't think you need to spend the extra $$$ for a B7610 (first time I think I've ever NOT recommended one! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif ) - as the B7510 already will be more powerful than the BX.

Hope that helps,

Dan
 
   / Ok...which is it? BX2350 or B7510? #28  
Well said Dan. I love my 7510 HSDTR. It serves me well. Glad I didnt opt for the BX. Pilk, find yourself a 7510HSDTR/FEL for around $12900. I bought my Turf Special for $10,200 with no FEL.
 
   / Ok...which is it? BX2350 or B7510? #29  
So how does the Turf special adjust the cutting depth? I would love to find one of those somewhere. The northern dealer said he carried a few but wouldn't stock them anymore. He didn't elaborate and I didn't know what he was talking about so I didn't ask any questions. I think this might be a good solution. Any details on the difference you can share would be great. Thanks.
 
   / Ok...which is it? BX2350 or B7510? #30  
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Well said Dan. I love my 7510 HSDTR. It serves me well. Glad I didnt opt for the BX. Pilk, find yourself a 7510HSDTR/FEL for around $12900. I bought my Turf Special for $10,200 with no FEL. )</font>

You think $12900 is possible? A non-Turf Special/FEL is $14200. How could the price be lower for a turf special? If that turns out to be true I'd be all over that deal like a monkey on a banana. /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif
 

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