old JD rotor cutter(bush hog)

fishfighter · Apr 6, 2009

I had a old JD rotor cutter and I don't know the make number/model and I need some new bolts for the blades.It is 5' and the blades are about 12" long on the ends.Its not a 127 and someone told me that it might be 107?I did try to find a picture of it on the net,but couldn't.The local JD dealer didn't know what model it was.A local welding shop carrys all kinds of parts for cutters and was able to match the blades,but not the nuts and bolts.That is the problem I am running into.

Anybody know of the older rotor cutter model numbers( a list of model numbers) and if there are aftermarket part web sites that I could look up and see pictures of parts of old JD rotor cutters?

Thanks!

KML · Apr 8, 2009

Don't know any good aftermarket sites but

jdparts.com

has parts breakdowns and drawings of most JD products from the mid 60's on. If you can find a part number on one of the parts you can search for it and then use the "where used" feature to maybe find the model number of your cutter.

You have to register to use it but the process is quick and easy.

Hope this helps.

fishfighter · Apr 8, 2009

Thanks,that did the trick.Why in the world the local JD dealer couldn't point me in this direction?

Anyway,its a 127 rear mount tire type rotor cutter.The replacement blades I have are 1/2" thick and the parts do show different bolts and now I have the part numbers.

Thanks again!

fishfighter · Apr 8, 2009

Now I know why the local JD dealer couldn't help me.Even with the right part numbers,JD on line didn't know of them.

So,anybody know were I can find replacement bolts and luck nuts for a 127 rotor cutter blades.

Part number for a set of 2 is:AGY 82 W

KML · Apr 9, 2009

Did some looking and this is what I found:

The 127 with the 1/2" blade uses AW 10950 but says to sub with two W12064 bolts. The AGY 82W is for the 3/8" blade. I entered W12064 into the "where used" search and it shows that it is also on the 307, 407, and 205 Gyramor rotory cutters. These are newer and show the full parts break down instead of the PDF of the old parts catalog like your 127. I selected the 205, then "sectional index", then "12-blade holder and blades". 1B is part number W12064. Click the "cart" check box on the far left, then click "add parts to cart", then "back to parts shopping cart". My dealer has 2 in stock and they are $37.50 each.

Hope this helps....

fishfighter · Apr 10, 2009

Thanks KML.I will try again myself with that info.For a old man,I'm still learning on how to get around the internet.LOL

Heavyduty · Apr 12, 2009

Do you have a tractor supply, agri-supply type store? They (agri-supply) have a good selection of blades to choose from, just take the old one with ya.

fishfighter · Apr 16, 2009

Well,I order the bolts/nuts from the local JD STEALLER at a cost of $109 and change. Unreal for 2 bolts and nuts! I will never buy/own another JD product again! There is no reason why the cost should be that high! This just boils my blood! SCREW JD!

I want to thanks ya'll guys for the help again.

Paul

kennyd · Apr 16, 2009

fishfighter said:
Well,I order the bolts/nuts from the local JD STEALLER at a cost of $109 and change. Unreal for 2 bolts and nuts! I will never buy/own another JD product again! There is no reason why the cost should be that high! This just boils my blood! SCREW JD!

I want to thanks ya'll guys for the help again.

Paul

Wrong attitude IMHO. Try to find a part through another OEM for a very old piece of equipment that hasn't been made in who knows how many years...and be able to research it online through the same parts system the dealer uses. Those two bolts and nuts where far cheaper than a new rotary mower.

gunmaker · Apr 16, 2009

You're right Kenny...many times I've been tickled pink to get the exact, but no longer made, part from some dealer. Just recently I picked up two parts that hadn't been made in about 10 years, both brand new in the package. Originally $5, but cost me $50. They do exactly what they're supposed too, no mods, no concerns.

KML · Apr 16, 2009

I'm with Kenny on this one. Though the price for those bolts may seem high for "only two bolts" the fact that you can even get parts from JD for 30 + year old attachments is great. With most companies you would have been out of luck and buying a new cutter! Add in the fact that you can search, locate, price, and buy those parts from the comfort of your own home to boot and I think it's a heck of a deal!

Paul, I'm glad you found your parts and hope this gets you back out there and cutting!

fishfighter · Apr 18, 2009

I can understand that getting parts for a old piece of equipment is one thing,but if JD web site tells me the cost per set is $37.50 and the local stealler charged me $50 per set just to make a call,WTF?

I did pick up the bolts/nuts yesterday and they even charge me more.2 bolts and 2 nuts out the door was $113.77. Yes,I need them and I payed them,but I wasn't very happy! They didn't even do a reach around!

Thanks Guys,now only if the rain would stop!

kennyd · Apr 18, 2009

fishfighter said:
I can understand that getting parts for a old piece of equipment is one thing,but if JD web site tells me the cost per set is $37.50 and the local stealler charged me $50 per set just to make a call,WTF?

OK, so your issue is with your dealer, NOT John Deere as a whole. When I order parts, I take a printout with me from JDParts so they cannot up-charge me like that-and they have only tried once.

Ductape · Apr 18, 2009

FWIW its not limited to JD dealers. My local Kubota dealer charged me $30 'shipping' for wheel spacers they had in stock (and by the looks of them, had been "in stock" for quite some time). You have to do your best to keep your dealer honest....... too many are perfectly willing to charge you list price ++++++.

fishfighter · Apr 25, 2009

Got a chance yesterday to install the new blades.Of course the new bolts worked like they should of.I did run into a little problem with the blades themselfs.They were about 1/4" to long.So I had to drop the blade bar again and cut the blade tips off.After that,I had hit the back 40 to see if everything was blanced and it work great.I will have to finish cutting today that should take me around 6 hours and then I have to go to work tonight.

On a side note.Yes,my beef is with the local stealler,not JD themselfs.When I went into the stealler,they wanted to sell me a new cutter.I ask the guy that if you are charging me way over the cost for a couple bolts/nuts,what in the world would make him think that I would buy anythink new from them? He just kind of looked at me like I was nuts!Of course there were other people buying parts there and one guy ask me what is what and I told him.He wasn't happy when he had to pay his bill too!I guess it is a local stealler problem and I will contact JD about this.I don't expect anything to come of it though.

Thanks again for the help.

jenkinsph · Apr 27, 2009

If the dealer is charging more than list price I would send a copy of the receipt along with a copy of the web page for the lesser amount to Deere. This all amounts to the dealer shooting himself in the foot. You went to school and learned alot from this for less than $100. I bet this will cost the dealer more than you in the long run. What is he going to lose on your next tractor or implement purchase?

Steve

AKfish · Apr 28, 2009

jenkinsph said:
This all amounts to the dealer shooting himself in the foot. I bet this will cost the dealer more than you in the long run. What is he going to lose on your next tractor or implement purchase?

Steve

Exactly... And what do you suppose fishfighter and the other guy standing in line are gonna say to the next person they run into that asks them a question about the local JD dealer??

What goes 'round comes 'round!

AKfish

ddivinia · Apr 28, 2009

kennyd said:
Wrong attitude IMHO. Try to find a part through another OEM for a very old piece of equipment that hasn't been made in who knows how many years...and be able to research it online through the same parts system the dealer uses. Those two bolts and nuts where far cheaper than a new rotary mower.

You got that right. My Brother has a Miller welder with a Onan engine that is shot (threw a rod). Well, it is only 10 years old or so and he can't get a replacement engine for it.

Also, those bolts are that expensive on the newer mowers. Atleast you didn't have to buy 6 like I did for my batwing.

It seems expensive until a blade flies off and kills somebody,
D.

ddivinia · Apr 28, 2009

fishfighter said:
Got a chance yesterday to install the new blades.Of course the new bolts worked like they should of.I did run into a little problem with the blades themselfs.They were about 1/4" to long.So I had to drop the blade bar again and cut the blade tips off.After that,I had hit the back 40 to see if everything was blanced and it work great.I will have to finish cutting today that should take me around 6 hours and then I have to go to work tonight.

On a side note.Yes,my beef is with the local stealler,not JD themselfs.When I went into the stealler,they wanted to sell me a new cutter.I ask the guy that if you are charging me way over the cost for a couple bolts/nuts,what in the world would make him think that I would buy anythink new from them? He just kind of looked at me like I was nuts!Of course there were other people buying parts there and one guy ask me what is what and I told him.He wasn't happy when he had to pay his bill too!I guess it is a local stealler problem and I will contact JD about this.I don't expect anything to come of it though.

Thanks again for the help.

I take it you didn't buy the John Deere blades?

D.

jenkinsph · Apr 28, 2009

Darin,
You are full of such good news

I have a Miller Trailblazer about 10 to 11 years old with the 20 hp Onan engine. Are you saying that parts or the engine is no longer available? Did he try Cummins for parts? I just checked and the machine has 590 hours on it and I am not ready to replace the whole thing if something happens.

Steve