Older Stihl getting hard to start

   / Older Stihl getting hard to start #41  
Guys, I have a 13 year old Stihl 180MS-C (easy start) When it was new it required 2 pulls to start. When it was 5 years it took 5 or 6 pulls. Now it's 13 years and I pull about 10-20 times. Sometimes I smell gas so it's flooded. I've changed plugs and run Staybil and Techron additives (always have) BTW, I've read that leaving rubber fuel lines dry will harden/crack them so I have always topped off the tank when it sits for 2-4 months.
Do I need a carb rebuild or a new saw? Thanks
Your Stihl MS180's hard starting and flooding issues are likely due to a worn or dirty carburetor. Consider a carburetor rebuild with a kit like Zama RB77 to replace worn parts. If the problem persists, inspect the engine's compression and spark to rule out other issues. Rebuilding is cost-effective if the saw is otherwise in good condition.
 
   / Older Stihl getting hard to start #42  
I'll second a vote for a battery saw of similar size. I own two 180's. Nice easy start saws but not very powerful.
I also own two 660's. They have seemed to put on a lot of weight in the last 5 years.
I had a sore shoulder so bought a 16" bar Milwaukee saw too, and have been impressed with how it works. I have 2 8amph and 1 12amph batteries so that will keep the saw going as long as I want to go before they and I both need recharging. I have just bought an 8amph FORGE battery but haven't used it yet. I have a Milwaukee string trimmer and a pole saw attachment, so the batteries can be used with them. My son is a red seal carpenter with many Milwaukee tools, so can also use my batteries in an emergency if he needs extra power. My gas days for these tools is past.
 
   / Older Stihl getting hard to start #43  
Check out Chickanic She has taught me a lot.

She posted this a couple of years ago, and it changed the way I start my chainsaws.

You will note she says she doesn't have a fix for your easy-start. However, she has lots of videos on changing fuel lines etc.
 
   / Older Stihl getting hard to start #44  
Most everyone here is saying it’s a fuel issue. A possible air leak likely as well. Check the rubber boot between the carb and cylinder. That boot generally has accordion like folds and is susceptible cracking. A crack is hard to see on a bottom fold unless you really look closely or remove the boot and inspect it. These cracks form when the saw gets pinched and the user levers the saw back and forth trying to free it.

Also my 1992 stihl 044 has never developed a fuel related carb issue. The carbs never been rebuilt and I keep gas stored I the tank always. Even in the off season. The only exception is when I run out gas and I just don’t refill it until the next use. I use non oxy gas available at a local station and Stilh 2 cycle oil. And this saw still runs like a beast. At times the set screws would vibrate and need an adjustment. After replacing the runner boot that holds them in place from being hardened over the years it’s been good. The same goes with my boat I purchased in 88. Same gas and Stihl oil. Gas has been sitting in the carbs for almost 40 years strait. I only use my boat about 5 times a year or less. It fires right up every time. The same goes with all of my small engines never having carb issues with local non oxy gas. I have 3 lawn tractors, 2 pressure washers, 3 generators, wood splitter, 4 wheeler, golf cart, 2 chainsaws and boat. I live in Mn so most of these things sit several months without being used.

To each his own, I’d never pay the $$ for pre mixed canned gas. They’re selling you the same thing you can pre mix yourself, much cheaper.
 
   / Older Stihl getting hard to start #45  
I had a 034 that was hard starting. Someone suggested blowing the vent lines clear. I did that with moderate pressure air and if fixed the problem.
 
   / Older Stihl getting hard to start #46  
Guys, I have a 13 year old Stihl 180MS-C (easy start) When it was new it required 2 pulls to start. When it was 5 years it took 5 or 6 pulls. Now it's 13 years and I pull about 10-20 times. Sometimes I smell gas so it's flooded. I've changed plugs and run Staybil and Techron additives (always have) BTW, I've read that leaving rubber fuel lines dry will harden/crack them so I have always topped off the tank when it sits for 2-4 months.
Do I need a carb rebuild or a new saw? Thanks
Have a 20 year old MS250 Stihl that was starting hard and running rough. After much tweaking, I replaced the ignition coil. Starts right up and runs like new. Never gave it a thought. Always figured it was a fuel issue.
 
   / Older Stihl getting hard to start #47  
I had the same issue last year with my ms170.
Bought a new fuel filter and a new carb off amazon, cheap Chinese carb for $15. First one is had to return because the saw wouldn't stop running, 2nd $15 carb from a different seller worked perfectly. Been a year now and starts with second pull every time.
10minute job and $15 part, and she's like new.
 
   / Older Stihl getting hard to start #48  
Guys, I have a 13 year old Stihl 180MS-C (easy start) When it was new it required 2 pulls to start. When it was 5 years it took 5 or 6 pulls. Now it's 13 years and I pull about 10-20 times. Sometimes I smell gas so it's flooded. I've changed plugs and run Staybil and Techron additives (always have) BTW, I've read that leaving rubber fuel lines dry will harden/crack them so I have always topped off the tank when it sits for 2-4 months.
Do I need a carb rebuild or a new saw? Thanks
Drain and discard all the old fuel. Put a cupful of 2 stroke mix in the tank. ONLY use full Choke for 1 Pull. Sounds like it is flooded when you try to start it.
 
   / Older Stihl getting hard to start #50  
All good things come to an end. Regular maintenance is one thing but rebuilding a machine a piece at a time don't compute. Ethanol in small engines is a death sentence. Use real high octane gas.
 

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