On Site Fuel

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It seems that most responders are 50-100 gal & portable so it can be filled at a consumer/retail pump.

The biggest convenience (or absolute need) is not using 5gal cans anymore.

I’m doing 5gal cans about 3 times a month just with my riding mower (1.5 acres). Adding a tractor so gas and diesel in the future.

I have no idea how much fuel the tractor will use. Will not be mowing, but property upgrade and maintenance. Lots of projects that couldn’t be done by hand.

I was hoping the savings would be a factor too, but it appears no one uses enough gas/diesel to get delivery, in order to realize that potential savings.
 
   / On Site Fuel #22  
I have 3 diesel trucks and 5 diesel tractors. I have 2 fuel cards in each truck. One is for the truck and one is for equipment. When I do my taxes, I get the road use tax back on all fuel purchased with the equipment cards. This way I can buy at any diesel pump without having to find a place with red diesel. And this allows me to buy at the lower price pumps.

Years ago I had a 300 gallon tank with clear diesel. It seemed that every time I filled it, the price would go down.

Now, one truck has a 100 gallon nurse tank and I have another 100 gallon nurse tank on a pallet in my shop. Both of these are filled using the equipment cards. This way I can fuel equipment on the job site or at my shop. Both nurse tasks have a 12 volt pump
 
   / On Site Fuel #23  
I have 3 diesel trucks and 5 diesel tractors. I have 2 fuel cards in each truck. One is for the truck and one is for equipment. When I do my taxes, I get the road use tax back on all fuel purchased with the equipment cards. This way I can buy at any diesel pump without having to find a place with red diesel. And this allows me to buy at the lower price pumps.

Years ago I had a 300 gallon tank with clear diesel. It seemed that every time I filled it, the price would go down.

Now, one truck has a 100 gallon nurse tank and I have another 100 gallon nurse tank on a pallet in my shop. Both of these are filled using the equipment cards. This way I can fuel equipment on the job site or at my shop. Both nurse tasks have a 12 volt pump
Interesting! I need to talk to my CPA about this.
 
   / On Site Fuel #24  
Like others, I got tired of going to town and filling up cans...and even more tired of fueling the machinery from cans.

Bought a 200-gallon Lee Agra tank with the 12 V Fill-Rite pump. Liked it enough to buy a second one for gas. Also bought four 325 gallon totes to replenish the diesel tank with, and it was a pleasant surprise to find out that having the fuel delivered was cheaper than trekking into town and paying pump prices.

These days the two Lee Agra tanks live in enclosures meant for trash cans, the pumps are powered by a car size AGM battery fed by a 10W solar panel.

Put a "scoop" on the first one to accommodate the height of the pump, but by the time I added the second enclosure I had figured out how to make things fit under the stock lid.

Either way, I can't imagine having to use 5-gallon cans or having to go fill them, ever again.
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   / On Site Fuel #25  
Could you elaborate on your DeWalt powered gas pump? I have not seen that accessory :)
LOL, the only thing DeWalt is the battery.

The rig is a 30 gal drum mounted on a wheeled cart with a plywood top. It has a 12V transfer pump powered by a 20V DeWalt cordless tool battery with an adapter wired to a 20V to 12V buck converter.

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I fill it from another pump connected to my 1000 gal storage tank. That pump is AC powered and won't work during an outage. If I get careless and let the generator run out of fuel, I can use the battery powered pump to do the fueling if necessary. It's also portable and can be moved wherever needed.

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I used this battery adapter and converter:

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   / On Site Fuel #26  
I have 10 acres of turf to mow essentially every week in season. Plus taking care of ¼ mi gravel road.

I have a 250 gal tote for diesel with a 12v submersible pump to plug into a port on the tractor when I fill it. Usually have the ORD delivered as my tractor can't lift 250 gal of diesel, and it's cheaper like Too Many Kubotas said.

Also have 3 30 gal HDPE rated drums for gas, on dollies that I can roll around to fill the vehicles with a 12v pump that uses the vehicle power port.
I can buy gas for $1 off a gallon based on points we get from Kroger. Wife has a great system for accumulating so many points we can't use them all each month. Haven't paid full price for gas in 8 years +
 
   / On Site Fuel #27  
Interesting! I need to talk to my CPA about this.
I got my 'road use tax' check from the US Treasury this week for $251.00. The federal tax on road diesel is $0.244 which means I used about 1028 gallons of road diesel in my equipment. Here in Louisiana our road tax is $0.20 per gallon. I'm not sure if I get that back or not. It's probably a tax credit on my Louisiana tax return.

$251 is not a lot, but I think it's worth the effort. The fuel cards do have a small cost, but they also help with tracking mileage and expenses on the trucks.
 
   / On Site Fuel #28  
How many of you have on site fuel tanks? Gas and/or diesel (on and off road).

Some questions have…
How big is your property?
How is it to work with your local fuel distributor?
What’s your setup? 55gal drums, ground level with pump, elevated gravity feed, mobile trailer/truck?
Do you use more/less fuel than you planned?
Any cost savings?
Is on-site worth it?
1. Property size about 112 acres
2.Very easy, I call when I am getting close to needing fuel, driver comes out within a couple of days and fills my 500 gallon off road diesel tank, my CC is on file and they charge it within a week and send me a sales receipt.
3.500 gallon ground level tank with a 120 volt 30 GPM pump, also have a couple of portable 50 gallon tanks with hand pumps.
4. I use about 1000 gallons of fuel per year between my farm and my skidsteer business.
5. Pay no tax on the off road fuel.
6. Being used to having it, I wouldn't want to try to make it without it.
 
   / On Site Fuel #29  
6. Being used to having it, I wouldn't want to try to make it without it.
A somewhat big thing for me is that if the feces hit the fan I'll still have a fair amount of fuel for feeding the generator and machinery. Plus a few regular road going vehicles - and under such circumstances nobody will care what color the fuel is.
 
   / On Site Fuel #30  
A somewhat big thing for me is that if the feces hit the fan I'll still have a fair amount of fuel for feeding the generator and machinery. Plus a few regular road going vehicles - and under such circumstances nobody will care what color the fuel is.
Hurricane Helene, a year ago tomorrow, taught me I have no idea what prepared means. I'm working to convert everything to diesel and have all the contingencies squared away. Can't just stroke a check to make it all happen tomorrow though.
 

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