Only in Texas, Don and Harv doing

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wroughtn_harv

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Don wanted a carport and he wanted to use my connector building system.

So here's what we're going to do, am doing. /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif

We're going to have an online discussion where he'll use my connectors and I'll provide advice and ideas as his building goes up.

He's convinced himself, not me, that he's only semi-handy when it comes to construction. And that if he can build a building with my system then anyone can.

This ought to be fun. Don and me do have a history if you're a newbie and aren't aware of us and what we do. Do a search. Look in "Projects" and use the phrase "ATV bridge". Be sure and use "all posts".

The way I got it figured just about the time Don gets this thing finished all of us norte tejanos will be ready for a get together, again.

Don has a bunch of pictures already. Last Saturday he got the holes drilled for the posts.

It's going to be a twenty one foot wide and thirty feet deep carport-storage room combination.

I can't thank Don and Karen enough for this opportunity.
 
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I have added this thread to my favorites list.
It going to be another one with lots of good info. /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif
 
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Cool! Cool! Cool! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Now if I could figure out how to use your connectors and then add a rough timber facade so it matches the style of my house, I'd be the next in line. If I can't figure that out, maybe I'll just build a tractor-port using your system. What I have in mind is much simpler than a full barn project. I figure one ole broken down sailor like myself could even do what I need for a tractor-port. /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
 
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Well Harvey Looks like we are going "live" now. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
I'll be under a bit of pressure to get things done to keep this thread going but this will be fun.

As I told Harvey I really like the design of his connectors and it seems so simple, but then Harvey makes everything look simple. Since I am not a builder and usually put things together wrong at least twice and always ask way too many questions I think I would be considered Harvey worst case scenario customer. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Harvey's Ideal of being "live" and answering all my questions through this thread sounds like a great idea to me.

This thread might seem painfully slow to experienced builders but for us novices I know it will answer a lot of building questions and might give us an insight into the creative mind of Harvey Lacey. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

The building will be my first metal structure and will be built in in central Texas. It will be built in retirement mode: slow and fun. /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

The framing materials have been brought on site and the holes have been dug.

The building will be a 21'X30' carport/storage building. The back 9' will be a storage area will slab.

The first thing I learned is that the building should be in increments of 3' because of the width of the metal sheets.

I will post more pictures tonight.
This picture shows the building site.
 

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<font color="blue">"...add a rough timber facade..." </font>

Jim, If Harvey can figure it out, I was thinking of adding some wood accents to blend in with the wood cabin. This will be a fun project.

I am open for any ideas or suggestions. If you see a better way to do something or a better way to do it next time please post. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
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Hi Don,
Im lookin foward to this thread /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif But I gotta ask, was that photo from a while ago, grass seems very short for this time of year ?

scotty
 
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Jim, I can't remember what type of siding you have. If it has a lap to hide fastners here is some ideas.

The left and center screws are made for attaching wood to steel. They have small wings above the drill point to keep your wood from riding up the threads when the point starts drilling the steel. Once the tip gets thru the steel the wings break off. The left screw is zinc coated, center screw has a chemical resistant coating.

I used the center screws on a 10x10 portch for my dad about 2 years ago. We used them to attach choice decking to steel perlin. When the choice deck greyed they matched great.

Short screw on the right is a standard stainless steel drywall screw.

Hope this helps!

James
 

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Don, looking foward to seeing you project progress.

James
 
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If they're like me the grass is short because we've had less that 4 inches of rain in the last 9 month. In that time on a normal year i'd of had 30".
 
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Those screws are the cat's meow in my book James.

On Scott's barn we used a standard Home Depot prehung exterior door. We used the brackets and framed the opening just like we would with wood, two inches bigger each way than the nominal door size.

Then we used regular wood shims to locate the door in the opening. The two inch oversize is to allow for squaring up and plumbing the door. In our case we could have went an inch oversize and had plenty of room for adjustment.

Once we had the door wedged in place we used six of those large grey screws to attach the plastic-wood door frame through the wedges into the steel purlin framework.

Jim start designing your building.

I've used two different ways to attach wood siding to steel purlin frameworks. The first time involved a cantilevered super trick looking cedar entertainment area in North Dallas. She wanted a cedar finish to match her fence including a twelve foot cantilevered roof with no pillars.

I was contacted because the contractors needed some ideas. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

We went in and placed four each four inch pipe posts twelve feet deep in lots of concrete. Then I built out a purlin framework with metal roof. We added two by cedar framework to the purlins via metal screws. Then they went in nailed up the cedar planks. It was a fun job.

Think of a cedar fence with a cantilevered cedar ceiling with can lights and a refrigerator and grill built into the wall.

The other way is to use self tapping screws and cedar planks. I love rabbets. Cutting in a three eighths of an inch rabbet on each plank guarantees there won't be a gap no matter how dry the material gets over time.
 

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