Opinion in buying a B21

   / Opinion in buying a B21 #11  
The list prices of new B-series Kubota and loaders can be found here. No backhoe prices but you can see the basic prices.

With a little dealing with your dealer you can probably get a new tractor and backhoe that will work very well in your application for around $20,000, less if you choose one of the smaller units. You may end up paying a more for a brand new tractor. But, you'll have no concerns about previous abuse. And, in this case you get lots more PTO power and the potential for a mid-mount mower.

The B21 has a 7.5' dig depth, the BL4690 and new BH75 backhoes also will dig 7.5'. The smaller B4672 backhoe will dig 6.5'.

The least expensive set-up may be the B7800, BL4690, LA402 combination. Work with your dealer to get the price down. If you want a smaller (B21 like) size, look at the new B2630, BH75 and LA403 combination. It'll work in your application, but since it's a new model getting the price down will be more difficult.

Don't select the smaller backhoe option on a bigger tractor. For your landscape work you'll want the biggest loader and backhoe options that will fit the tractor. The longer reach of a bigger backhoe will pay off with less re-positioning of the tractor to dig.
 
   / Opinion in buying a B21 #12  
Kurt
There is one feature that makes the B21 a better tractor for Backhoe work. Same seat for operating tractor and BH. I have leaned to move my B2910 tractor small amounts from the BH seat.
The amount of BH work you intend to will determine how important this feature is.
 
   / Opinion in buying a B21 #13  
I thought the B21 weighed much more than the other tractors mentioned. The weight of the B21 does not give it much advantage over the lighter tractors as I thought. As mentioned the other tractors would probably be a better choice, especially the new B3030 with the quick attach/detach designed backhoe.
 
   / Opinion in buying a B21 #14  
The rental company I work for uses B-21 backhoes, I belive they weigh around 6,000lbs. I don't remember exactly, they're good machiens that's for sure. But they do get beat up pretty good. I'm surprised they even run sometimes with the abuse they get from our customers.

Blake
WA
 
   / Opinion in buying a B21 #15  
Blake, I think you are a bit high. I have all the manuals and specs for my B21 and I'll be darned if I can find a single place that states the weight of the whole machine.

The "Workshop Manual"says:

Weight (with ROPS, FOPS and front Loader) 2858 lbs (1296 kg)

The Backhoe section of the manual doesn't say anything I can find.

Throw on another 1000 lb s for the hoe and you're pretty close to Ron Hall @3800 pounds.

I think the sales brochure had a total weight number but I pitched that.
 
   / Opinion in buying a B21 #16  
Al
I got the B21 weight from <font color="orange"> Kubota's </font> site.
B2910 weight came from there also. FEL and BH came from my manuals for those items.
 
   / Opinion in buying a B21 #17  
Maybe I'm thinking of the KX-41. I alwasy get mixed up with those two, I think you're right on the B-21. It's the 41 that weighs more. It alwasy struck me odd just becasue the 41 is such a puny little excavator but that's probably what I mixed it up with. /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Blake
WA
 

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