Opinions on trucks

[LarryRB]

your new truck and mine are almost identical paint wise,, I already have the side steps, tonneau cover and bedliner installed,, I have a fold down console too, so I could take six if need be. I have different wheels and tires, at least it seems this way from your picture,... anyway, enjoy, and have many happy miles with your truck. I plan to have many miles with mine as soon as I get over turning the key, waiting for a start light
First gas engine for me since the late 80's and it takes some getting use to.

 

[canoetrpr]

Looking good LarryRB. What sort of teflon coat did you get? The paint on my 10 year old Accord faded badly in some spots and I'd like to keep this truck for longer and have it still look good.

I don't like to spend the time myself waxing and it gets expensive paying someone to do it 3 or 4 times year.

I'm interested in learing what products might be out there that would protect the paint and require fewer applications.

 

[LarryRB]

that is not a picture of my truck, but MDM and it is he, that has the tephlon paint over... I'll see if I can take a picture that is bigger than what I showed earlier,,

 

[jwstewar]

Mine will seat 6. It has the fold down console, but there is a seat belt there. Here is the final pic after I added the bugsheild, running boards, mudflaps and bedliner. I also had a teflon paint treatment done. It is supposed to last 5 years and eliminated the need for waxing.

I had that Teflon coating put on one of my trucks. I think it was my '91 S-10. Forget what it cost me, but it is some of the worst money I ever spent. You couldn't wax the truck because it would haze, but it would dull down really bad so you would have to go back and use their special cleaner on it. It would look nice for awhile again, but then dulled quickly. It was much harder to "polish" vs. a normal wax. It was kind of expensive too. Something like $13 (remember early 90s pricing) and it only did 2 applications on the S/10. At that time, a good tub of Turtle Wax was only $1.50.

 

[LarryRB]

Well,

I just went outside and tried again. Last week the pictures were so small no one could see them. This time I just snapped 3 quick shots, downloaded and didn't send them through resize first,, Now that I see the two pictures together, they are different paint colors So,,,

 

[MDM]

The teflon treatment was something new Chrysler was offering. I think it was called Enviroshield. It cost $300 and it is about a 3 - 4 hr process to apply it. I'm not supposed to have to wax it. Just wash with soap and water to get a showroom shine. It is very slick. I can place a towel on the flatest part of the hood and it will slide right off. It is supposed to last 5 yrs, but we'll see. I really didn't want the treatment, but my wife falls for the after the sale crap like the paint protection and extended warranty.

 

[jwstewar]

I Googled Enviroshield and didn't see anything right off on paint protection. But I remembered the name of mine and it was called TST 5000. Got lots of hits on that. Mine looked great (black) when it was first done. Sounds like yours. You could lay a towel on the hood and it would just slide off. Could hardly stand up in the bed of it becuase it was so slick. For your sake, hopefully they've improved it, but I won't get it again. From the search, looks like there are some that like it and some like me that won't have it again. It was pretty new when I got it, so maybe they have improved it. Mine was applied by a 3rd party the dealer was hooked up with. It took about 4 hours to apply it. I'm thinking it cost me around $250 at that time. Did it come with a bottle of cleaner?

 

[canoetrpr]

Looks even sharper in the grey. My own Ford is grey. I like the dark colours but they are impossible to keep clean. I'm stuck on Silver, Grey etc. light colours for practicality now.

 

[Hematite]

Getting into this a little late but when I bought the Sunline I went with a new 2007 Ford F150. In retrospect, it was an excellent decision. The towing capability of the 5.4 with the 3.73 ratio axle is awesome. It takes the 25ft TT in stride and has never had even a slightly hard time towing, no matter how steep the grade. It has done better than I thought it would. Very happy with the level of comfort, as well.

 

[MDM]

My brother in law bought a new F-250 last year with the 5.4L. Needless to say, he was impressed when he drove my new truck. He said mine road much better and than his and his motor "didn't have nothing like that" when he punched the hemi down. Really doesn't mean much though cause he has a nice truck and I like Ford trucks as well. I was actually set on a Ford based on my intenet shopping, but ended up liking the Dodges most after I looked at them all. Hard to beat all the incentives and lifetime powertrain warranty. Plus I get to deduct all of the sales tax on my return next year.

 

[Dmace]

The towing capability of the 5.4 with the 3.73 ratio axle is awesome. It takes the 25ft TT in stride and has never had even a slightly hard time towing, no matter how steep the grade. It has done better than I thought it would.

Not to rain on your parade but that truck has a tow capacity of 7800lbs with the 3.73 and extended cab 4x4 layout which is hardly impressive for a 2007 model year 1/2-ton truck. Also, that travel trailer weighs less then 5000lbs if it is the "light weight" model which would be an easy tow for a Ranger, let alone a full size truck. Put a good 8,000-10,000lbs on that truck and you will see that there is nothing awesome about the towing capability of that 5.4l.

 

[Diamondpilot]

Not to rain on your parade but that truck has a tow capacity of 7800lbs with the 3.73 and extended cab 4x4 layout which is hardly impressive for a 2007 model year 1/2-ton truck. Also, that travel trailer weighs less then 5000lbs if it is the "light weight" model which would be an easy tow for a Ranger, let alone a full size truck. Put a good 8,000-10,000lbs on that truck and you will see that there is nothing awesome about the towing capability of that 5.4l.

I just looked up his truck. A 2007 F-150 4x4 Super Cab (Extended Cab) with a 6' bed and the 5.4L with 3.73 gears has a tow rating of 9,300# Heck even the 3.55 gears has a 8,300# tow rating. I just wonder where you get the crap you spread?

I have towed 9,500# to 10,000# with a 5.4L F-150. While it did not impress me it did the job and it did it every bit as good as my 2003 Dodge 2500 Hemi. That is when the Dodge was not in the shop.

Chris

 

[patrick_g]

My brother in law bought a new F-250 last year with the 5.4L. Needless to say, he was impressed when he drove my new truck. He said mine road much better and than his and his motor "didn't have nothing like that" when he punched the hemi down. Really doesn't mean much though cause he has a nice truck and I like Ford trucks as well. I was actually set on a Ford based on my intenet shopping, but ended up liking the Dodges most after I looked at them all. Hard to beat all the incentives and lifetime powertrain warranty. Plus I get to deduct all of the sales tax on my return next year.

Treasure the powertrain warranty, especially if you have an automatic as the tranny on back is the weak link in Dodge.


Pat

 

[Diamondpilot]

Treasure the powertrain warranty, especially if you have an automatic as the tranny on back is the weak link in Dodge.


Pat

Got that right. The only tranny I have every had to have worked on was the one on my 2003 Dodge 2500 4x4 Hemi. It had a total rebuild by my dealer twice before 65,000 miles. Traded it with the 2nd rebuild on its way out. I have owned about 25 other cars and trucks and never had a single other tranny type issue except for a transfer case in my 1989 S-10 Blazer.

Chris

 

[Hematite]

Not to rain on your parade but that truck has a tow capacity of 7800lbs with the 3.73 and extended cab 4x4 layout which is hardly impressive for a 2007 model year 1/2-ton truck. Also, that travel trailer weighs less then 5000lbs if it is the "light weight" model which would be an easy tow for a Ranger, let alone a full size truck. Put a good 8,000-10,000lbs on that truck and you will see that there is nothing awesome about the towing capability of that 5.4l.

First, yes it does have a 9300 lb towing capacity, as equipped, and the trailer is not an ultra light since it weighs 6600 lbs loaded.

And, no there would not be anything awesome about it's towing IF I was pulling 10Klbs but that's not what I said, was it?

 

[Hematite]

Here you go again. I just looked up his truck. A 2007 F-150 4x4 Super Cab (Extended Cab) with a 6' bed and the 5.4L with 3.73 gears has a tow rating of 9,300# Heck even the 3.55 gears has a 8,300# tow rating. I just wonder where you get the crap you spread?

I have towed 9,500# to 10,000# with a 5.4L F-150. While it did not impress me it did the job and it did it every bit as good as my 2003 Dodge 2500 Hemi. That is when the Dodge was not in the shop.

Chris

Thank you for correcting the the obvious inadequacies of that post, I appreciate it!

 

[Bird]

Folks, I think everyone would appreciate it if these discussions could stay a bit more civil. If someone makes a mistake, you don't have to make it a personal attack to disagree. Thread closed.