options for 0w-40 synthetic oil for new 4035?

   / options for 0w-40 synthetic oil for new 4035? #21  
It is time for me to change fluids and filters in the truck and tractor so I ordered some JD 0Wx40 oil. It has gone up a w ee bit in price since the last time I bought a five gallon bucket. The last bucket was $100....

This bucket is $175! :confused2: I ordered it and I might be crazy. The price was the same or a bit cheap than other 0Wx40 oil and Shell 5Wx40 oil was only a bit cheaper. The last bucket I ordered was cheaper than Shell.

At this price I think it will be my last bucket of JD but we shall see.

Just throwing that price out so people can compare.

Later,
Dan

You can get Schaeffer's full synthetic 5w40 in a 5gallon bucket for around $110 wholesale pricing. Not only is it less per gallon than what you just paid, I can still extend the drain interval, improve fuel economy and extend the life of the equipment.

I understand people have to be convinced when the oil is more than what their paying, but when it's better oil at a better price. It's a no-brainer.
 
   / options for 0w-40 synthetic oil for new 4035? #22  
It is time for me to change fluids and filters in the truck and tractor so I ordered some JD 0Wx40 oil. It has gone up a w ee bit in price since the last time I bought a five gallon bucket. The last bucket was $100....

This bucket is $175! :confused2: I ordered it and I might be crazy. The price was the same or a bit cheap than other 0Wx40 oil and Shell 5Wx40 oil was only a bit cheaper. The last bucket I ordered was cheaper than Shell.

At this price I think it will be my last bucket of JD but we shall see.

Just throwing that price out so people can compare.

Later,
Dan

I bet the cost of the plastic bucket went up :)
 
   / options for 0w-40 synthetic oil for new 4035? #23  
I'm going to really take a big chance. I'm going to pour in over 4 gallons of Chevron Delo 400 synthetic CJ-4 motor oil into my new JD 6330. I hope I don't score all the bearings, wreck the liners, burn all the guts out of it, because the Delo is not Rotella, nor Mobil, nor AMS Oil. If red lights come on the dash, I'll shut her down fast!! Can't believe that Chevron would deliberately build a junk synthetic HD engine oil though, I'll risk it.
 
   / options for 0w-40 synthetic oil for new 4035? #24  
Running a bypass filter set up makes all the difference,happen to have one with out it listing soot levels and wear metals? for the same type intervals?
The first UOA was without the bypass filter - it's the first image in the group of three images in my last post. It also appears as the rightmost column on any subsequent UOA (by date)

The mileage was 117,579 ... and as you can see if there are not huge differences in insolubles (soot) or wear metals - with or without the bypass.

and it's still going to be application dependent a little 2.7 MB engine is allot easer on any oil then say a highway truck or off road heavy equipment engine,
If you're talking about say, a semi-tractor pulling a loaded 53' trailer for examples .... then, yeah ..... in a way ....

OTOH, if you look at how a lighter-duty passenger car/light truck/van engine is probably typically driven (short hops, etc.) that generally can be considered a form of "severe duty" .... at least that's what Dodge and Cummins seems to think, according to the manual for my RAM.

Here's another thing .... the ISB in my RAM is IIRC around 325hp and 610 ft lbs of torque ... for a 7300 lb vehicle. The little 2.7 Mercedes in my Sprinter produces 154 hp ... for a 6500 lb (unladen) vehicle, which is typically loaded to 7500 to 8500 lbs.

Which engine is more stressed and working harder ?

sure as heck wouldn't put that oil in our 600hp C18's or our 550 hp N14,ISX Cummings.
Understandable - if that's not what they call for.

This discussion has got me rethinking CJ-4 oils - I might give M1 TDT 5w40 a whirl and see how it is .....

One of M1 0w40's big draws for me was the higher TBN .... and it's hard to argue with the performance I've gotten from it.

I assume as someone who frequents BITOG you know who Doug Hillary is - in my talks with him, he did not share the same concerns as you do about M1 0w40 - in fact, he thought it was just fine and totally up to the task.
 
   / options for 0w-40 synthetic oil for new 4035? #25  
I bet the cost of the plastic bucket went up :)
The price of bucket, the price of the paint on the bucket, and the oil. :D

I priced out Mobil 1 and it was the same price or a bit worse than the JD oil. No Schaeffer's around here and I get can get Shell 5Wx40 oil at TSC which is less dollar than the JD oil but not by much. :eek:

I wanted to get one more UOA on the JD oil. If the price is that bad next time I will go back to using Shell. Used Shell for years but then found out the JD oil was the same price or a bit less but that was years ago.

I have been running 10-13K on either oil.

Later,
Dan
 

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