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   / OUR SINCERE APOLOGIES #111  
I was looking at a DK40SE HST. Really liked the machine and the value offered. Got qoutes from 2 different dealers, including Michigan Iron. But as I look at the dealer situation, I am going to buy a Kubota. I just don't want to spend that kind of money only to have the dealer drop out or get kicked out. Or the brand disappears entirely. This kind of dealer turnover drops the value of these machines down to that of the chinese tractors.


Well, you've just decided to pour about $6000 down the drain to get a Kubota with the same capabilities. "This kind of dealer turnover" is common in the tractor business. Kubota and JD dealers also drop the line. No question that dealership access is an issue with Kioti but with a dealer like Michigan Iron you would be very well served. Bobcat is not going to disappear and it is pretty unlikely that Kioti does anything but grow given the value they offer in CUTs compared to JD and Kubota. Your decision is kinda like deciding to pay and extra chunk of change for a Toyota rather than a Hyundai. If it makes you feel better do it but don't think you are getting a better value in a car.
 
   / OUR SINCERE APOLOGIES #112  
Well, you've just decided to pour about $6000 down the drain to get a Kubota with the same capabilities. "This kind of dealer turnover" is common in the tractor business. Kubota and JD dealers also drop the line. No question that dealership access is an issue with Kioti but with a dealer like Michigan Iron you would be very well served. Bobcat is not going to disappear and it is pretty unlikely that Kioti does anything but grow given the value they offer in CUTs compared to JD and Kubota. Your decision is kinda like deciding to pay and extra chunk of change for a Toyota rather than a Hyundai. If it makes you feel better do it but don't think you are getting a better value in a car.

Michigan is a highly regarded dealer, and I agree, I can't see bobcat going anywhere.

You should think twice.

Joel
 
   / OUR SINCERE APOLOGIES #113  
I was looking at a DK40SE HST. Really liked the machine and the value offered. Got qoutes from 2 different dealers, including Michigan Iron. But as I look at the dealer situation, I am going to buy a Kubota. I just don't want to spend that kind of money only to have the dealer drop out or get kicked out. Or the brand disappears entirely. This kind of dealer turnover drops the value of these machines down to that of the chinese tractors.

On our Island we have had 3 different dealers (companies) handle the John Deere brand in about 15 years, including one of them that went bankrupt. :p People did not stop buying John Deere products. I really think Wallace moving on has created an unreasonable panic. You should look at the value of what you are buying, Kioti goes back about 60 years which is not insignificant. Having several dealers come or go, out of 200-300 per year is very normal in most industries. :)
 
   / OUR SINCERE APOLOGIES #114  
Panic is right. This forum helped me confirm the stability and value of the tractor itself, plus the new buyers I saw asking for advice let me know the pack was growing,which is a solid indicator of KIOTI stability. Now we have just seen a prospective buyer say he is buying the other K tractor just because of this panic. Lets get back to BUYING /PRICING! I want to talk about what is working and working right, MY KIOTI!!! OW OW OWWWW!!
 
   / OUR SINCERE APOLOGIES #115  
I wouldn't count out IronMichigan. He seems to run a quality dealership as well. With that being said I'm glad I bought my Mahindra from Wallace instead of a Kioti :)

I was looking at a DK40SE HST. Really liked the machine and the value offered. Got qoutes from 2 different dealers, including Michigan Iron. But as I look at the dealer situation, I am going to buy a Kubota. I just don't want to spend that kind of money only to have the dealer drop out or get kicked out. Or the brand disappears entirely. This kind of dealer turnover drops the value of these machines down to that of the chinese tractors.
 
   / OUR SINCERE APOLOGIES #116  
I was looking at a DK40SE HST. Really liked the machine and the value offered. Got qoutes from 2 different dealers, including Michigan Iron. But as I look at the dealer situation, I am going to buy a Kubota. I just don't want to spend that kind of money only to have the dealer drop out or get kicked out. Or the brand disappears entirely. This kind of dealer turnover drops the value of these machines down to that of the chinese tractors.

In my vicinity, over the past several years I've witnessed 3 New Holland, 2 John Deere, 1 Kubota and 1 Kioti dealer, all close their doors. :confused2: Another Kioti dealer opened up. That does it! I've decided to not buy any more tractors, period! :eek:

I'm investing in a couple draft horses! :rolleyes:

Don
 
   / OUR SINCERE APOLOGIES #117  
Michigan is a highly regarded dealer, and I agree, I can't see bobcat going anywhere.

You should think twice.

Joel

I agree completely. MIE is a good dealer and nice to deal with. I'd give them a chance.

I believe that Kioti is here to stay. They are selling through their own dealers even if the dealers change a bit. It must be the laws of business that some of us aren't aware of without being a dealer. Unfortunately, dealers come and go and I think the tractor business can be tough. Especially in this economy. It's nice to see a familiar face when you need parts or advise but some of us may just need to make a new friend. Second, Bobcat wouldn't have picked up the Kioti line of tractors to sell under their name and keep identical except for the white paint if Kioti was going under. Bobcat has been around for a good while and has a good reputation.

Long live my CK30hst and Kioti. I'll just miss talking to Rick for advise. If I ever need another tractor or a bigger one, it will be this orange; not the other.
 
   / OUR SINCERE APOLOGIES #118  
Panic is right. This forum helped me confirm the stability and value of the tractor itself, plus the new buyers I saw asking for advice let me know the pack was growing,which is a solid indicator of KIOTI stability. Now we have just seen a prospective buyer say he is buying the other K tractor just because of this panic. Lets get back to BUYING /PRICING! I want to talk about what is working and working right, MY KIOTI!!! OW OW OWWWW!!

I agree completely. MIE is a good dealer and nice to deal with. I'd give them a chance.

I believe that Kioti is here to stay. They are selling through their own dealers even if the dealers change a bit. It must be the laws of business that some of us aren't aware of without being a dealer. Unfortunately, dealers come and go and I think the tractor business can be tough. Especially in this economy. It's nice to see a familiar face when you need parts or advise but some of us may just need to make a new friend. Second, Bobcat wouldn't have picked up the Kioti line of tractors to sell under their name and keep identical except for the white paint if Kioti was going under. Bobcat has been around for a good while and has a good reputation.

Long live my CK30hst and Kioti. I'll just miss talking to Rick for advise. If I ever need another tractor or a bigger one, it will be this orange; not the other.
Here we go, this is the good stuff!!
 
   / OUR SINCERE APOLOGIES #119  
I was looking at a DK40SE HST. Really liked the machine and the value offered. Got qoutes from 2 different dealers, including Michigan Iron. But as I look at the dealer situation, I am going to buy a Kubota. I just don't want to spend that kind of money only to have the dealer drop out or get kicked out. Or the brand disappears entirely. This kind of dealer turnover drops the value of these machines down to that of the chinese tractors.
First I want to say I am not trying to talk you into buying a Kioti tractor.Look at all of the specs including front loader lfting capacities on the Kubotas.I will also tell you I have nothing but GOOD THINGS to say about Michigan Iron & Equipment,They have given me TOP NOTCH service and sales.For example I bought a new befco york rake from them and had a problem with one of the gauge wheels on a fourth of july weekend.Bob(owner) came to my house about a 60 mile drive each way to pickup my rake and fix it.He then drove back with my fixed rake about 2 days later.How is that for service.The choice is yours.coobie
 
   / OUR SINCERE APOLOGIES
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Guys I would tell all of you out here that just because we are not carrying the Kioti line of tractors doesn't mean that Kioti is in any type of trouble...The fact of the matter is they made a decision and sometimes you have to play the cards that were dealt to you.
There is a lot of unanswered questions both from you guys out here and also from us.

If you ever talked to me on the phone or even read some of my posts you would have picked up the fact that I was selling you, MYSELF AND OUR DEALERSHIP and you just happend to get a bright orange tractor out of the deal!.
So with that being said we have moved on and I would ask that you guys keep carrying on..
We appreciate all of your support and we will continue to give you all of the support back.
Sometimes you have to just play the cards you are dealt!

Now on the other hand if Amy and I were to get a divorce then you guys should all be worried!:laughing:
 
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