Pallet forks suppose to be loose or SSQA bracket improperly made?

Fallon · Dec 23, 2013

I understand. I tend to avoid Harbor Freight or Walmart for a lot of stuff, but sometimes cheap semi-disposable stuff is a better answer than the more expensive options.

TomSeller · Dec 23, 2013

rsallen said:
, the warranty has been voided because you modified it from factory specs.
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Therein lies the problem. There were no factory specs they built it to. That is why we are talking.

My guess is these are Chinese and that is why they never have fixed the underlying issue of fabrication. They probably make $75 per unit and just call it a wash when they have a problem rather than try to fix the issue through a language/cultural barrier. If you look at the steel in one of those forks, you would have a hard time buying it for what they charge.

merlynr · Dec 24, 2013

I bought a "Dirt Dog" brand front bale spike with qa and it fit just like the front bucket from the factory with no play when you tighten the levers. Quality piece.

ovrszd · Dec 24, 2013

TomSeller said:
Therein lies the problem. There were no factory specs they built it to. That is why we are talking.

My guess is these are Chinese and that is why they never have fixed the underlying issue of fabrication. They probably make $75 per unit and just call it a wash when they have a problem rather than try to fix the issue through a language/cultural barrier. If you look at the steel in one of those forks, you would have a hard time buying it for what they charge.

I agree Tom. But it still aggravates me that we as a people are willing to sell out our standards to make a buck. There's no real excuse for this. I totally understand having something built in China if it increases profit margins. But that's no excuse to ignore standards. The Chinese, or any other nation including Mexico that's building products for us will only build them to whatever standards we enforce. If we reject anything below that standard, they will comply. If not, they will continue to make and sell us junk. It's simple human nature. We'd do it to them too.

Herkypilot · Dec 24, 2013

Richard,
Remember the term "Japanese Junk"? That was thrown around in the '60's & 70's relating to Japanese manufactured equipment. I don't think anyone associates Japanese made equipment with "Junk" anymore, do you?

Remaining comment not directed at Richard...
I've heard that these fitment issues seem to be more of a Kubota SSQA problem as Kubota is slightly off on their standard compared to others. Anyone here have a different experience? Do you think a company like "WildKat", who by the way MAKES their equipment on-site, would stay in business long if ALL their products didn't fit skid-steer equipment right? As far as their company, it isn't a "China" issue at all. Btw, WildKat's shop is 40 miles from my house, I've been there multiple times.

TomSeller · Dec 24, 2013

ovrszd said:
I agree Tom. But it still aggravates me that we as a people are willing to sell out our standards to make a buck. There's no real excuse for this. I totally understand having something built in China if it increases profit margins. But that's no excuse to ignore standards. The Chinese, or any other nation including Mexico that's building products for us will only build them to whatever standards we enforce. If we reject anything below that standard, they will comply. If not, they will continue to make and sell us junk. It's simple human nature. We'd do it to them too.

You are exactly right. Since Titan has been doing this refund for years I have no other explanation for it. Price talks so they sell a lot. I bought one of their ssqa adapter plates to weld to an old bucket and it was spot on dimensionally. So they obviously know the correct dimensions.

TomSeller · Dec 24, 2013

Herkypilot said:
I've heard that these fitment issues seem to be more of a Kubota SSQA problem as Kubota is slightly off on their standard compared to others. Anyone here have a different experience? Do you think a company like "WildKat", who by the way MAKES their equipment on-site, would stay in business long if ALL their products didn't fit skid-steer equipment right? As far as their company, it isn't a "China" issue at all. Btw, WildKat's shop is 40 miles from my house, I've been there multiple times.

I have a Wildkat that fits loosely and none of my 3 SSQA attachment ends are made by Kubota. The Wildkat fits loosely on each. To some extent I want a little slop if I am working in mud or ice and I have some buildup over time I can still get the pins down.

Herkypilot · Dec 24, 2013

Interesting Tom. I wonder what template/standard measurement Wildkat is using then? I believe they work on Bobcats at their shop too so I'd have to believe there are no problems with hooking up to them. Anyhow, the price was right and now, after adding shims, they fit tight.

HP

Fallon · Dec 24, 2013

Welded it up last night. Found out I was out of larger sized filler rod & had some shielding gas issues, but I got the job done... Barely. It held up to some abuse with a quick spade.