Pallets in fields

   / Pallets in fields #741  
James,

I am proud of you. Rather than following your normal modus operandi of offering gratuitous endorsements of crackpot theories, you have opened a new line of inquiry that may prove useful in advancing science.

The images you linked indicate that the geometry and dimensions of the inverted V's are important to amateur radio enthusiasts. Although we lack precise measurements of the pallet formations (due to the nonfeasance of sparc and tkappeler), you may be able to estimate the critical parameters by close examination of the photographic evidence provided by sparc. Having obtained the parameter estimates, you could identify the radio frequencies associated with those parameters and begin monitoring those frequencies. Users of those frequencies may divulge information about the pallet formations.

Steve
Yes James... I salute you as well. Your latest contribution to the quest could possibly advance one or more theories. Further thought is now required and hopefully this will get the squirrelists to shed their nutty ideas.
 
   / Pallets in fields #742  
   / Pallets in fields #743  
There are four mysteries here:
1) Where in tarnation is sparc?
2) What were the pallets used for that caused them to be brought to the fields?
3) Why are the pallets still in the field?
4) Why are the pallets not seen during the growing season?

My current conjectures:
1) Sparc is MIA--and the possibility of DT's cannot be ruled out without further information. I suggest someone from NJ attend the local AA meetings in hopes of a sparc sighting.

2) The pallets were used to transport cable spools. (See below.)

3) A break down in the local pallet mafia leadership caused a failure to collect the pallets as promised. There were broken legs.

4) From Sparc's roadside viewpoint, the pallets are obscured by vegetation during the growing season: the pallets are always present but not always visible.


2) Addendum
Numerous long straight lines of pallets stretching great distances across several farms indicate a long, straight construction of something. Returning to the wisdom of the ancients, Ptolemy (AD 90 - AD 168), widely credited with originating the KISS principle, had this advice on theories: "We consider it a good principle to explain the phenomena by the simplest hypothesis possible."

The most obvious, simple conclusion is that a new EnergyStar rated ELF or ULF antenna was installed in the earth of New Jersey. The supposed politically motivated closing of the GW Bridge was a clever cover-up needed to disguise the work to incorporate the bridge structure into the antenna array to achieve electrical lengthening.

The static generated by tires crossing the bridge deck reduced the power requirements needed by older ELF arrays. As strange as it may seem, DARPA actually received a 30% federal tax credit for the development of the "green" antenna array.


Extremely low frequency - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Because of this huge size requirement, to transmit internationally using ELF frequencies, the Earth itself forms a significant part of the antenna, and extremely long leads are necessary into the ground. Various means, such as electrical lengthening, are taken to construct practical radio stations with smaller sizes.

The US maintained two sites, in the Chequamegon-Nicolet National Forest, Wisconsin and the Escanaba River State Forest, Michigan (originally named Project Sanguine, then downsized and rechristened Project ELF prior to construction), until they were dismantled, beginning in late September 2004. Both sites used long power lines, so-called ground dipoles, as leads. These leads were in multiple strands ranging from 22.5 to 45 kilometres (14.0 to 28 mi) long. Because of the inefficiency of this method, considerable amounts of electrical power were required to operate the system.

I must protest this blatant antenna theory claim-jumping in the strongest of terms! For shame!
 
   / Pallets in fields #744  
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   / Pallets in fields #745  
I must protest this blatant antenna theory claim-jumping in the strongest of terms! For shame!

The history of science is marked by controversies concerning the parentage of "great" ideas. An example is the question as to who invented/discovered calculus: Isaac ('Izzy') Newton or Gottfried ("Gotcha") Leibniz?

I do not believe we have such a controversy here.

Dave's claim to "The Antenna Theory" is

(t)he pallets were used to transport cable spools.

If I am interpreting James correctly, the pallets themselves may be serving as antennas.

I see these as two separate theories that must succeed or fail on their own merits. The ultimate test must be which of the two theories, if either, offers concrete testable predictions.

For the moment, Dave's theory has a higher "Crackpot Index" score due to the fact that he has attempted to explain his theory. James has ample opportunity to surge into the lead when he explains his theory.

Steve
 
   / Pallets in fields #746  
Without proper measurements of the pallets, again due to failings of aforementioned members, I can only guess at the frequency of operation of these inverted V antennas
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But here are the formulas for Dipole calculation Length in feet= 468/Frequency in Megahertz. Now if you place this antenna in inverted V configuration you can shorten the legs from 4 to 5 percent depending on the angle of the legs to each other.. If you work the formula backwards you will see that the pallets would resonate right smack dab in the middle of the SSB (Single Side Band) portion of the 6 meter band!. Here is a convenient calculator if you wish to follow along.

Now this does not come as a mere coincidence as the 6 meter band is often called "The Magic Band" as the modes of propagation on this band sometimes defy explanation. In other words, conditions occur that cannot always be predicted or even fully understood. The following links are just some of many that describe this "magic band"

6-meter band - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

ON6MU - The Magic Band (6-meters 50MHz)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bahOR-vHbs

Since it would seem that we are looking at a phenomenon that is not fully understood either, perhaps my inverted V antenna theory on the "magic band" may have a tie in here.

I therefore humbly submit my "antenna theory" of six meter resonance (operation at a particular frequency) and do withdraw and eschew all other heretofore theories I may have aligned myself with.:D
 
   / Pallets in fields #747  
I must protest this blatant antenna theory claim-jumping in the strongest of terms! For shame!

Your ELF (Extremely Low Frequency) is totally scurrilous and without merit, ELF antennas are miles long, and these pallets would seem to be in the 6 meter band.
Nice try, but no cigar.!:D
 
   / Pallets in fields #749  
Your ELF (Extremely Low Frequency) is totally scurrilous and without merit, ELF antennas are miles long, and these pallets would seem to be in the 6 meter band.
Nice try, but no cigar.!:D

Consider this fair warning James! I've got a good lawyer in J. Noble Daggett, who is ready and eager to file the necessary injunctions--should you fail to cease and desist.
 
   / Pallets in fields #750  
Consider this fair warning James! I've got a good lawyer in J. Noble Daggett, who is ready and eager to file the necessary injunctions--should you fail to cease and desist.

You "pull him like a gun!":D
 

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