Pats easy change problems

[Bob_Skurka]

bdog, I'm totally in agreement with some of the other posters here after you posted the pictures. The pins are 'in' and they typically come that way from shipping, most dealers will flip them out when they sell them.

Indydirtfarmer's point is key here, in that there are some standards, I suspect if you flip them you'll find they meet the standard. However, not all manufacturers build to the standard, as it is voluntary.

Twstanley's point about flipping the wheels to gain offset, and again checking arms to insure they are properly installed should not be bypassed.

Simply turning the pins out, and tighting up the amount of play the turnbuckles allow may resolve the problem.

 

[bncsauve]

Just a thought, but it looks to me like the adjustable lift arm stops are attached to the outboard holes, but would work better attached to the in board holes on the lift ams. (can they be swapped with the lift links?)

 

[milkman]

Now you've done it, we'll have to lable your TPH as "limited Cat 1" /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

[normde2001]

If covering your tracks with the bucket is an issue, it would appear that the culprit here is the size of your bucket. The 4720 shows a max wheel width of 72", and should have a BL20 loader. Which loader do you have and what is the width of the bucket?

 

[JerryG]

You defiantly have a problem. Either the wrong lift arms have been placed on the tractor or to small of a bucket has. I have never seen that size of tractor have the problem that you have encountered. When a higher hp tractor is designed for a vineyard or orchard, the lift arms will be S shaped to accommodate the narrow wheel stance and still hook up to standard cat. 1 implements. Your tractor isn't a vineyard tractor nor does it have S shaped lift arms. The pins on implements when used on all full sized tractors are always installed pointing out. Your dealer has apparently tried to overcome the problem by placing the pins pointing in. This has not worked. I would suggest that you investigate to see if other tractors of the same brand and size have the same lift arms as yours or if they are different. If they do have the same arms, I would then check to see if they have installed the correct width of bucket.

 

[MicroPilot]

There are some pictures of the rear of my Century tractor here:

TBN Photo Gallery

I have never had any issues with the arms or stabilizers touching the rear tires. It looks to me like your rear wheels are set to the very narrowest setting possible. I did swap sides with my rear tires to set them out a little wider, but still, I didn't have any issues before doing this.

My pics show identical lift arms, sway bars,and even wheels as your machine. If I were you, I think I would adjust the rear wheels to a wider stance and solve my problem. This may not be a solution foryou, but you haven't said if there is a reason that you need to have the wheels set on a narrow track.

 

[bdog]

Thanks for the replies. I have looked at several other Bransons and they are all the same. Yes my tires are on the narrowest position. I have the BL20 loader. It is 6' wide. My rear tires are less than 6' wide, I have not measured them exactly but I thought they should be slighty narrower than the bucket to ensure the tracks are covered. I guess I could adjust them out.

I measured the shredder and from the outside to outside of the frame where the lift pins bolt in is 27". It was mentioned that the pins are to be 26.5" apart per cat 1 specs. How is this measured? Center of pin to center of pin, end of pin to end of pin? Mounting surface to mounting surface?

I had to go do some jobs today and was in a hurry so I just notched out the support arms on the shredder to be able to connect and go and it works fine. Shredded all day with no problems.