Payloader gone wild

   / Payloader gone wild #41  
For example. when plowing in developments in particular. People call up and complain that you didn't plow close enough to the curb, because they don't want to shovel so much in front of their mailbox. Then on the same street you hear complaints that you plowed too close and plowed in there driveway or trying to get close you hit their mailbox:confused2:

The big difference is that when you slam a loader into peoples cars, it causes major damage to their property. Not when you dont plow close enough to the curb.

What you describe, shows that often the public lacks to understand that the operator runs heavy equipment, not a hand broom, and therefor has to make a responsible decision about how close he thinks is responsible to get to the curb, because he is assumed to know what is, and what is not possible with the equipment he operates. No operator will get bashed by me for making this decision responsible, even if i have to do some extra shoveling myself.
I have operated quite some machinery, but when a contractor comes to work at our place, its the operator who decides if his machine is capable/suitable of performing a certain action. If we disagree, he's the guy responsible for the equipment so in the end, its his call.

However, the scenario you draw (probably from your personal experience) isnt the issue people have with this video, more like the other way around:

Even if they didnt know the horseman's tricks, they could at least remained calm and discuss their next step, instead of stepping the throttle in panic, into a car... What these joyriders in this video show, is that they totally lack knowledge about their own, and their equipment capabilities, because they stampede their way out like a raging bull when they dont know how to solve the situation they have gotten into.

as you can see at 0.38 in this video (they added some music to the originial OMG thats unbelievable ! lyrics) you can see that all they would have to do is tow those cars a couple of yards forward, because the parking space ahead was unused...
http://www.youtube.com/user/JCK42#p/a/f/1/Hroc30P13yE
 
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   / Payloader gone wild #42  
Bet you wouldn't sacrifice your personal vehicles (two were damaged) for the common good. :laughing:

No I'd be PO'd like a son of gun but once I knew Bloomberg was gonna make me whole again, I would settle down :)

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Should you ever get the opportunity to drive an articulated vehicle, take it. They are a hoot to operate. With no traction even the slightest side slope will send you crabbing sideways. Think about it. Lets say you are going across a side slope and you want to turn up the hill to your left. So, you turn your wheel to the left. On an articulated vehicle, that makes your rear wheels point to the right, down the hill. Now if your front tires lose traction gravity pulls the front of the tractor down the hill while your rear tires push you down the hill. To counter act it, you instinctively steer right and straighten it out to make yourself parallel to the slope again. But now you are close to the car in front of you, so you back up trying to make the rear end go up the hill, which requires you to steer left, which points the front tires down hill. Your rear wheels lose traction and down the slope you go some more.

I have on a couple of ocassions operated large loaders but none were articulated, your description helps me understand their unique characteristics now. I'm sure that crabbing action came into play but probably more due to being up on packed piles of snow as opposed to a 1% grade from the road's crown, buried far below.
I saw one picture of a little 4x4 pick up parked in the middle of the road up on the packed snow, the tires were about level with the roofs of the cars parked and buried on the sides of the road.

JB.
 
   / Payloader gone wild #43  
A couple of snow shovels, and a couple bags of salt, and they would have had the loader out in under half an hour. No damage.
 
   / Payloader gone wild #44  
YouTube - NY's Dumbest: Prelude to a Crash: Video #1 Premonition

Here is a vid from before the crunching and it does show how the crown of the road really affected this situation . He wasn't in there near as deep but the more they pulled the more it went to the side of the road. Just food for thought.

I still say they could have done better
 
   / Payloader gone wild
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#45  
Look at where they pull from its always pulling upward in that video. in the end they switch to the chain pulling horizontaly.. didnt seem to make much difference.All and all doesnt look like much damage to the van. A little duck tape and bondo. maybe
 
   / Payloader gone wild #46  
Don't get me wrong I think these guys could have done a better job but I don't think they are all evil as people try to make it seem.

I don't think they are evil. Probably the kind of guys that would give you the shirt off their back if you were suffering. But they are not rocket scientists for sure.:laughing:
 
   / Payloader gone wild #48  
Well the only other thing is I guess that is why they call it a wrecker:laughing:
 
   / Payloader gone wild #49  
Well the only other thing is I guess that is why they call it a wrecker:laughing:

I think we have a spy here!

DPW = Department of Public Works :)

JB.
 

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