Peerless Boiler Parts

[dave1949]

I have a propane-fired Peerless Boiler. PSCII-04-SV-WPC series.

It needs a new exhaust fan, I can hear the sound of damaged bearings, or a galled shaft, off an on when it runs. It may need more than a new fan, but it fires up and runs for a bit, then the flame goes out while the fan runs, and runs, and runs with no re-ignition. I think the fan speed is too slow to satisfy the sensor, or once it slows due to the bad bearings, it does not reset by itself.

I looked on the Peerless web site. They have a link to Parts To Your Door, LP for repair parts. The fan is listed at $280. Yikes!!! That is just a rip off.

Does anyone know a less expensive parts source for these boilers? Any other advice is much appreciated.

Thanks.

 

[SPIKER]

Try Amazon, Ebay and Allied Electronics along with local heating & cooling places. Try and find a manufacture of the fan it's self and look for a replacement. Check the fan size material and mounting type. they can be had at many locations usually for less than a hundred bucks and most often for these little exhaust fans about 30~60. If you were closer I would suggest Wolf Brothers in Wooster Ohio, I deal with them a lot and they have most of the items for HVAC systems.

Mark

 

[kenmac]

Do like I do when I have to replace any motor . Take the assy off and go to a motor shop. You may want /need to replace the squirrel cage as well ..Motor shops are usually cheaper than buying oem

 

[dave1949]

Thanks guys. I'll see if there are manufacturer labels on it, and how it is assembled with bearings or bushings, whatever.

The only thing at all special about it is that is runs in fairly high temperature location providing the power exhaust up the flue.

$280 is a shocker for what it is.

 

[kenmac]

Thanks guys. I'll see if there are manufacturer labels on it, and how it is assembled with bearings or bushings, whatever.

The only thing at all special about it is that is runs in fairly high temperature location providing the power exhaust up the flue.

$280 is a shocker for what it is.

I replace these exhaust motors on gas furnaces all the time. I buy from the local motor shop due to lower cost. If I have to pay more the customer has to pay more. I usually remove the entire assy and take it to my local motor shop. I usually find that the squirrel gage is also rusted apart and just purchase the entire assy. From many yrs of experience, I recommend buying the complete assy. It is of course your call

just curious , is it steam or hot water ?

 

[charlz]

Similar prices for pellet stove fans.... when my exhaust fan started making noise I just disassembled the motor and put new bearings in it for about $20. My blower motor started making some noise at the end of last year and I intended to pull it out this summer and change the bearings but didn't. So far this Fall it has been quiet so I have left it alone. Likely it is just waiting for a long cold snap before it starts making noise again

 

[SPIKER]

... So far this Fall it has been quiet so I have left it alone. Likely it is just waiting for a long cold snap before it starts making noise again

It will wait till 9 PM on Friday Night when NOTHING will be open Sat. in the middle of a Blizzard if your luck is ANYTHING like mine. Usually it is a hunk of Plumbing that waits till 6 or 7PM Sunday Night to pop/split/leak or otherwise ruin my Sunday evening.

Mark

 

[dave1949]

I replace these exhaust motors on gas furnaces all the time. I buy from the local motor shop due to lower cost. If I have to pay more the customer has to pay more. I usually remove the entire assy and take it to my local motor shop. I usually find that the squirrel gage is also rusted apart and just purchase the entire assy. From many yrs of experience, I recommend buying the complete assy. It is of course your call

just curious , is it steam or hot water ?

Hot water. It is connected to a in-floor radiant heat system that is like auxiliary heat for us. It used to have a zone that was DHW, but we changed that to solar pv electric supplied. So, it will sit for many months without running except for me just turning it on to make the water move in the PEX.

I still need to take the assembly out and eyeball it. Planned to do that today but it didn't happen. The heat and moisture combination from propane exhaust can't be good for the fan or the motor.

 

[kenmac]

The way it's vented has a lot to do with the condensation. I find that condensation is the largest killer of these exhaust motors/squirrel cages than heat.. If the vent pipe is single wall and passes through an un heated area (cool area) you get a lot of condensation. If your vent pipe passes through an un heated space, you should use double wall vent pipe. If the pipe runs up the side of the home. It should be double wall pipe incased in an insulated chase. If it vents into a chimney, it should be double wall vented within the chimney from the bottom all the way out the top

 

[dave1949]

The way it's vented has a lot to do with the condensation. I find that condensation is the largest killer of these exhaust motors/squirrel cages than heat.. If the vent pipe is single wall and passes through an un heated area (cool area) you get a lot of condensation. If your vent pipe passes through an un heated space, you should use double wall vent pipe. If the pipe runs up the side of the home. It should be double wall pipe incased in an insulated chase. If it vents into a chimney, it should be double wall vented within the chimney from the bottom all the way out the top

The vent pipe is "Z Vent II Special Gas Vent Component", 3" stainless. It looks like it is single wall. It is installed in an attached but unheated garage, the temperature is usually around 45*-50* when we would be using the boiler. There is a 90 deg. elbow ("jacket" according to the parts diagram) on the side of the boiler, then about 6' of vertical pipe and about 3' of horizontal pipe that goes through the exterior wall, passing through the center of a combined intake and exhaust box.

What sort of insulation is used for these vents?

In winter when it runs, there is always a plume of steam visible outside coming from the exhaust. But, there is probably some interior condensation occurring too when everything is cold on start-up.

The heat from that vent pipe used to keep the garage about 10*-15* warmer when it was used for DHW and ran more frequently. It's an oversized one-car garage with a well insulated attic above it, two bermed walls, and one wall shared with heated space. It doesn't take much to warm it up a bit.