Pellet Stove review?

   / Pellet Stove review? #11  
Most folks I know that live out of town have generators and heat is the least of my worries when the power goes out I am more concerned about water fwtw. A gas stove and fireplace if you have one will heat the house enough you wont freeze to death. These stoves use less than 300w of power so a simple battery powered inverter will run one just fine for as long as a person needs heat and a solar panel for those so electrically inclined can be put on to keep it charged, its all about how much effort one wants to expend.. my .002

All the generators and solar panels also power inverters cost more $ ,time,fuel and maintenance and storage space you can't beat the $ saved by using a wood burning stove , But if you have to deal with a medical reason (allergies /handicapped ) maybe your best bet is a pellet stove :chicken:
 
   / Pellet Stove review? #12  
Do you get your water from a stream just curious? ;)

Since you mentioned it-If a person had any real physical challenges they would be using propane or natural gas not wood or pellets just my way of looking at it.

Personally I have been heating with wood and still am at least supplementing my propane heat even at my business one way or another for over 40 years not getting any younger either so physical challenges face all of us eventually. my .002
 
   / Pellet Stove review? #13  
Well to each his own , but not everyone has a garage next to their basement to store 2 pallets of pellets or $2500.00 to spend on a stove ,And you just can't beat the fact of it requires electricity to work and the first time you have to wait for the power to come back on a wood stove /fireplace is the winner !,Some people like to cut wood and I myself would rather be outside working than wasting time watching sports. But I also don't have the worries of allergies and I consider multiple chainsaws in my shop a requirement . No electricity no heat !

How much does a nice looking woodstove cost? Including flue? Again, I spent less on my pellet stove than a comparable wood stove wood have cost.

As far as storage, it's much easier (and cheaper) to buy a small storage shed to store it your pellets than it is to buy some land to cut fire wood on.

As far as electricity, I bring the battery out of my fifth wheel, plug in my inverter, and the stove will run for quite some time. I think it takes about 80W, so it will run a long time on battery power. If the battery dies, I swap it out with one of the other 12V batteries I've got around (car/truck/tractor/etc.) or plug in some jumper cables. Pretty simple, really.

It's really not as much of a negative as the uneducated would believe.
 
   / Pellet Stove review? #14  
I read a lot of reviews before buying our stove, and the consensus was, if you are going to buy one, spend a little extra and buy a good one. We went with a Harman for around $2500. A good wood stove (we wanted one that looks nice) would have cost within $1k of that. To answer some of your questions, Grumpy:

1. Jamming - ours almost never jams. We had some pellets (Ozark Hardwood Products) that were 2-3" long, and they would cause the stove to jam. Once we quit using them, we have not had a jam since.
2. Our will hold 60 lbs of pellets, or a bag and a half. That will last almost 2 full days.
3. Thermostat - ours has a thermostat and will hold our basement (that's where we have ours) within a half degree of what we set the thermostat at. Try that with a wood stove! I keep ours set at about 73, and it heats almost our whole house. Though our pellet stove is not for our main heat source, it was still cold in the basement since the house was not initially set up for heating the basement well. The pellet stove cured that.
4. Ours has not needed any repairs outside of an igniter that is out. I just use the gel instead of replacing the igniter.
5. Outside air source - you don't HAVE to have an outside air source, but the stove works better that way. Besides, you have to go somewhere with the exhaust, may as well bring in some fresh air while you are at it.
6. I usually burn about 1.5-2 tons (pallets) of pellets each year. It's usually $175-$190/ton for pellets. We keep our house warmer, but spend less money than when we had only propane heat.
7. Storage - I have a garage right next to my pellet stove in the basement, so it is very convenient.
8. Cleaning - cleaning is simple. Twice a week, I take a scraper and scrape the firebox while the fire is burning. This takes about 15-20 seconds. Once every other week, I shut the stove down, scrape the firebox well, clean the heat exchanger tubes, clean the glass, and fire the stove back up. This takes about 10 minutes of my time. Then, twice a year, I have to dump the ash pan. Yes, twice a year, not weekly like a wood stove. I usually shut the stove down and give it a good, thorough cleaning when I do this. It takes about 30 minutes.

Now, as far as a wood stove, we looked into one. However, we were going to have to add a flu, which would have cost more than the entire pellet stove, intake, exhaust and interior "niceties" I put in to make it look nice around our stove.

Wood is messy. Plain and simple, it's messy, it's dusty, and yes, it's a lot of work. Plus, 3 of the 5 of us in our house have allergies and sinus issues, and the dryness of the air plus the dust from the wood stove is absolutely horrible for that. Prior to last October when we bought some land, I didn't have any place to cut wood. So, I either would have had to purchase it, or find someone to allow me to cut wood on their land. Like it or not, there are a lot of costs associated with cutting wood, from chainsaws, chains, gas, fuel to get the wood home, etc. Honestly, it would have probably cost me more than the $350-$400 that I currently spend on pellets for wood.

We had wood heat when I was a kid, and I loved the warmth. I wanted wood heat now, but with all the drawbacks I mentioned above, it was not really an option for us. So, we have a pellet stove that gives us the warmth of wood heat without all of the hassles and drawbacks of wood.

Hopefully this sheds some light and helps out.

I'm with you on most of your comments. Our pellet insert stove is 13 yrs old. No part failures, can't ever recall a pellet jam. When run 24/7, the small ash tray needs cleaning out about twice a week. I have a tstat connected to the stove and it will hold the set temp. My tstat is a digital model and I have it set to turn down the temp at night and then back up again come morning. One has to have a source of timber on their property to even consider the fuel was free and even then you're just kidding yourself about it being free. Around here, a cord of decent wood cost about the same as a pallet of pellets. I've not seen a pellet stove that wouldn't hold at least one 40# bag of pellets. As for noise, no louder than the stick burner we had previously that had a decent sized multi-speed squirrel cage circulation fan. During the milder days in the winter months, I can get ~2 days on a bag of pellets.

One thing not mentioned so far is the difference in efficiency between the 2 typs of stoves. All I've ever read show the pellet stove to be several times as efficient as a stick burner.

I've had both types of stoves, cut and split a lot of wood and since having the pellet stove, I'd not go back to a stick burner but that's a personal decision.

Yes, a pellet stove does take electrical power. Either 110 or there are models that run on 12V DC. My stove uses 90W when running on mid setting. Living in a rural setting, like many, I have a generator, actually 3. The smallest is a little 1kW inverter genny and if it was only powering the pellet stove it would run ~8hrs on 3 qts of gas.

Do wonder where Grumpy got all his info that for the most part isn't valid.
 
   / Pellet Stove review? #15  
I have read many reviews on pellet stoves and most if not all jam /do not hold a full bag of pellets /have no thermostat /are loud /must be cleaned almost daily /frequently need repairs / require outside air source /expensive at $1,000.00 /require many bags of store bought pellets to run for a whole season which have to be stored inside and completely dry ! Whats wrong with a good old wood stove ? basically free to run if you have property and trees /no need to run to the store for pellets /store your wood outside /only have to clean them weekly / no need for outside air source /and you get the benefit of exercise / no need for 3 wall piping/ $269.00 for a pallet of pellets and you will burn 3-4 pallets a season ? Thats a lot of fire wood ! I personally don't see why anyone would buy one .? Also if the power goes out so does your stove when you would need it the most !
YOUR INFO IS WRONG with mis information.Quite a chuckle out of your post.Paid $189 for one ton of pellets just last week.Burn about 3 tons per year,our house is 1650 sq.ft. main level.My Avalon pellet stove (120 lbs hopper)NEVER JAMS,we run it 24/7.Had it four years now with NO REPAIRS.It is our main heat source from mid oct.until early may.We also have a thermostat.We clean our stove once per week.Your info is VERY mis-leading.For correct pellet stove information go to this website Hearth.com - Information on Fireplaces, Wood Stoves, Pellet Stoves, etc. Grumpy is correct,nothing better than chopping/cutting wood all summer in the heat to make sure you have next years dried out wood to burn.Don,t forget ya have to be somewhat young in age to do this.LOL.Hope if you burn wood you have at least 20-40 acres you own to cut from because if you don,t you will be buying your wood.I guess he forgot to add information.LOL.
 
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   / Pellet Stove review? #16  
I don't have any experience with that stove in particular, but we have had a Harman XXV pellet stove for 5 years and love it!

Harman does build very nice stoves!
They buy most of their castings from Vermont Castings...who does not offer a pellet stove.
Anyway, Harman is very particular about the cosmetics of their stoves...something to consider since stoves are as much furniture as they are heat sources.
 
   / Pellet Stove review? #17  
Pellet stoves are nice. We have a 14 year old Whitfield that came with our house when we bought it. It's been trouble free. Easy to clean. Shelf life of the pellets is excellent. We use it for emergency heat and run it off a portable generator. We lost power in an ice storm in February for 4 days a couple of years ago. Temps a daily high in the low 20's. Filled the pellet stove with 5 year old pellets and this stove ran trouble free for these 4 days. It kept the whole house in the low 60's 'till the power came back on.
 
   / Pellet Stove review? #18  
I have heated with a pellet stove for over ten years with no problems. where i live the county has more no burn nights than burn nights so the pellet stove was the only way to go. I get my pellet fuel from costco for under $200 a ton
 
   / Pellet Stove review? #19  
I have a Whitfield as well, can't recall how old now but think at least 15. Heats our 1900 sqft house on 5 bags every 2 weeks in the winter has never jammed. Been almost trouble free, and I clean it twice per season.
 
   / Pellet Stove review? #20  
I can run our pellet stove for 12 hours on one deep cycle battery and a simple Harbor Freight inverter. My boat in the garage has 3 large batteries that are always fully charged.

I have a wood burner upstairs and pellet stove downstairs. I only burn about 25 bags per year (1000 lbs) as it only runs a few hours each evening and maybe longer on the weekends. Very handy and efficient source of heat.

It was expensive at 3000 bucks but it is 10 years old now and has had nothing but cleanings in that time. I estimate I save about 300-400 bucks per year on natural gas by using it as a supplemental heat source. It's very hard to heat a basement without overheating the upstairs.
 

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