Just My opinion , But I think the ones that have the Problems with teaching your kids & enjoying the together time while learning the diffence between right & wrong & safety on or around any type of vehicles , Obviouslly Weren,t raised on or around a farm .
When I was growing up as a lot of You probablly did ,If You were old enough to walk & talk You did whatever you could to help out & taught ways the new generations cant even begin to imagine .
Wether it being operating farm equipment , Plowing , disking , cutting , Milking cows , Running the wheat trucks in the feilds , or getting the ole gun out & getting supper .
I did & was expected to do that type of stuff before I was 10 years old, & enjoyed every minute of it . I had My first ceegar & drink of liquer before I was 12 . & never touched either again till years later

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Sorry I guess I was raised in a really bad envirement . So I can understand why folks these days are so concerned with raising their kids , While getting Spoiled with, Fancy toys , video games , cell phones, & all the other fancy toys the parents cant live without paying with it with plastic or money they aint even earned yet , therefore teaching their kids the same things . Gota love that 0 % intrest

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Its not really that hard to figure out who,s who, by reading the replys in most of these threads . But then again , I was working when a lot of you were being schooled . so Excuse my lack of grammer skills .
Where I come from , if You cant pay cash for it , you dont need it & shouldn,t buy it . Its a shame others cant learn that , Because the rest of us pay for it in the long run . Sorry, I recon I,m getting off topic to far . Just putting in my 2 bits. Bob