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Sorry about your loss. I think I would have to help the next truck that gets stuck back in the trail. You know adding a little weight to the bed should help for traction (I figure about 5 or 6 tons should really help the truck get traction!!!!! I really admire how you are taking a stance to prevent this from happening again. People who are actually enjoying the land by walking the trails will probably like the boulders as the kids can play on them and they make for great pictures.
I would also put a nice ditch along both sides of the road (for drainage purposes) and if they are a deterent then so be it. Put a small foot bridge for the actual people who want to use the trails for hiking.
I would have to echo some of the others comments about keeping the dogs on your own property. I have a neighbor who has 3 large dogs in a fenced yard (fence ready to fall down). They bark constantly at my 7 year old daughter when she is outside. She is even scared to go to the back of our lot on the trails because she is afraid they will get out and come after her. They have gotten out once all ready. I have warned the neighbor about the dogs. I am an animal lover, but I love my daughter more.
 
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and docsknotinn...

Not to sound argumentative, but I'm only calling those who come out to our area and shoot their bows, powder, shotgun, rifle at deer, turkey, squirrel, other what THEY call themselves. I myself do not think the English language has a word slimy enough to describe this bottom feeder of a human being (dogkiller).

As I am calling them what they call themselves, I think YOUR taking offense should be more directed at them for slandering that word and associating themselves with hunting, rather than me, but so be it.

Re-read my comments again and you will (I think and hope) see buffering comments I tried to make showing that I understand that not all hunters/hikers/other are no-lifes like this person was.

If they want to hunt in TVA land, fine by me. Just abide by TVA's regulations (no moterized vehicles amongst others obviously) and walk in.

If you re-read all of my comments, you will notice some comments I made specifically so that all could see this isn't "anti-hunting/other".

I wish you & your loved ones the best.

Richard
 
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As Richard said in a previous post, this thread shouldn't turn into a political argument over hunter ethics. As far as I'm concerned Richard hasn't done anything, by closing off the trail to motorized vehicles, that prevents law abiding hunters from accessing the TVA property as TVA allows (no motorized vehicles).

If someone wants to start a new thread regarding hunting ethics, I'm sure a few thousand of us will be happy to post our views and responses.
 
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Richard, I honestly do not continue to be offended. The only thing I don't like is to be grouped with those types. I don't mean to be argumentative at all. I just do not feel that it can be justified to call them Sportsmen or hunters just because that is how they refer to them selves. There are many criminals in Prison who no doubt see themselves as innocent victims of society. That does not make them such and most of us just call them what they are. Criminals. I do not want to see this strand digress any more than I want to see wanton discrimination. Now as far as takeing this up with the slime balls, Believe me, If I caught them I would. I am indeed sorry you have to endure this. Its unpleasant. Best Wishes catching the scoundrels. Dave
 
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I would call my insurance agent about liability insurance on my tractor if I was going to be doing what you're doing and the work you will be doing for the TVA. The insurance isn't that much ( I would get insurance for dirt contracting and NOT tell them I was blocking roads and paths!). The TVA might insist on you having insurance papers on file. If somebody zips down a trail they have used all their life on a dirt bike or an ATV and hits a boulder they are going to sue someone. You might as well CYA.
 
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Wow, what a thread !

This thread is a real roller coaster. I felt sadness, anger, I shed a tear, I laughed at Richards comment "I'll go listen to 20 minutes of disco music for my indescretion." That was great. I think I'll go home and hug my dogs. Maybe I'll even forgive em for the 180.00 vet bill they cost me last weekend.

I just wanted to share a little story with the group:
Last Christmas, my family and I fulfilled a life long dream of owning a ranch. We purchased 60 acres of some of the prettiest rolling land that we'd ever seen in the two years that we looked. After we closed on the property, me and two buddies went out to clear a path for the driveway and to get started. We worked for several hours clearing out brush and mesquites, and then we decided to grab a .22 and shotgun and to do some target practice. My buddy fired off maybe 10 rounds from his .22 and we were headed for the back pond to see if there were any ducks in there for easy pickins. As we started back to it on foot, a little white truck came screaching up to the entrance we had cleared. A man was screaming at the top of his lungs. Naturally we started heading back to the entrance to see what was the matter. The man was screaming "You hurt my boy", "You hurt my boy". You can imagine the horror that overtook my body as I invisioned that we had hurt someones boy, possibly by a stray shot. We ran to the fence line where the man was screaming and asked us if we had been shooting. We said yes, and he commenced to cuss all three of us a blue streak. By this time, I was already shaking from the thought of hurting someone, but my heart was really palpitating hearing him scream. I set down my gun asked how we could help. The man kept on a screamin and cussing and finally said we should get the @#$()% out of there and that if we didn't, he was gonna go get his .50 caliber and show us what it would do to a man, and that they might find three corpses out there. I was freaking out inside by now, shaking, wanting to try to help the guy if his boy was hurt. Finally the man spoke some final death threats and hurried back to his truck again screaming to get the *&^#$ out of there. I told him that I had just bought the property and that we didn't intend on leaving. I was shook up and decided we better call the sheriff to check on this guys boy. I called 911 and the sheriff showed up about 15 minutes later. We explained our story and asked the sheriff to go and check on the man's boy.
The sheriff explained that the man was ex-cia, Texas Ranger, etc. and that he wasn't about to go back there and talk to the man, and that the man didn't even have a boy. It seems that they had to "TAKE HIM OUT" once before and someone had gotten shot. I thought to myself "What have I gotten myself into"

Weeks later, it was discovered that someone had shot the man's bull, with a high caliber rifle and killed it. I can now, after reading this thread sympathize with his uncontrollable rage. My other neighbor tried to explain to him that we were hunting with a .22 and a 12 gauge and that we couldn't have shot his bull. But he still is not convinced. I fear him, my family fears him, and all of the neighbors call him a madman.

My point in sharing this with you is that I can see how easy it would be to become so enraged that you could do something that you and your wife would regret. Don't let this thing eat at you, make you bitter and make you suspect, hate and threaten everyone that approaches your land to hunt.
I'm not saying that that's what you do, but you seem pretty upset - still !

I have always prided myself in being a safe, courteous and consientious hunter. After your tragic experience, it would be very easy to unload on verbally or physically the next hunter that walks down your road with a rifle, or parks his truck in front of your driveway.
Trust me, I'm not defending the booger that did this to your dogs. They truly are scum. I'm just saying that before the incident, life was probably pretty good for you, and now it would be very easy to be suspicious of everyone, everything and make it your life's ambition to make hunting miserable for the hunters next door on the public land. I admire you all for your honesty and this just proves that men can show their feelings and express themselves. I hope I havent' offended anyone in my sharing and I hope that my story might encourage Richard to get him another dog with which he can experience the GOOD Life.

God Bless All of ya,

Charlie Walther
 
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Re: Wow, what a thread !

He and his wife got another dog.......inflicted with Parvo....hopefully little Otis will make it back home to a loving family. And the GOOD life has been hell on him so far, but Otis seems to be improving /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
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Getting thread back to the original Subject line.
 
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Dear Richard...

Just read this string and my sincerest regards to u and yours!!!!I've worked for TVA many a time and wish i'd been up on that property setting those 3 piece 110' steel poles as there is plenty of room in the bottom of one of them to fit a scumball like this!!!!

I love to hunt and just so u know...I read "the whole string" and read your "hunter disclaimer" and i think htat u have done a fine job in protecting the rights of all of us here ......I sometimes wish that we had the good-ol days again where justice really prevailed /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif

Again i am so sorry for your loss!!!! /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif

Todd Hall from maine
 
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Thank you sir... and sadly, they've already constructed those 110' tall towers (around here), so hiding "anything' there isn't an option /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif I was however, amused by entertaining the thought.

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