PINE logs anyone?

[Rebeldad1]

boy would i love to have that pile!!!

 

[CobyRupert]

I built my entire house with lumber from a Woodmizer saw mill. Trees from my farm. 3000 sq feet. I wish I were a little closer to the OP. I would grab that up in a heartbeat. Around home loggers can't get wood right now. Go figure.

Did you have to get you lumber grade stamped for the building inspector? ....assuming there was one...

Couple years back I cut an acre or so of red pine trees. Maybe 1 in 10 was big enough for lumber, the rest where probably pecker poles, 10-12” dbh, and 60’ high.
I’d spend months cutting enough of them into 8’ logs to fill a triple axle log truck. A truck full would get $400 at a mill that turns them into shavings and sawdust for animal bedding.
The truck driver would get $200 for the 10 minutes it took him to load, 20 minute drive, and 10 minute unload, and I’d get $200 for about the 80 hours of work to cut, trim all the branches, measure and cut into 24 footers, drag out of wood, then cut into 8 footers and stack.
The worst part is I’d then give the $200 to the shavings mill and another trucker (with a dump truck) to bring sawdust for my wife’s horses and end up with $0. ....gee somebody’s getting scr*wed here...twice.

 

[Thomas]

have them cut for log cabin shed etc.

 

[FTG-05]

Soot, or sap?

Ignorance. Or a plentiful supply of hard woods.

 

[Midniteoyl]

Or a plentiful supply of hard woods.

Around here theres actually little pine and plenty of the other.

 

[grsthegreat]

Did you have to get you lumber grade stamped for the building inspector? ....assuming there was one...

Couple years back I cut an acre or so of red pine trees. Maybe 1 in 10 was big enough for lumber, the rest where probably pecker poles, 10-12” dbh, and 60’ high.
I’d spend months cutting enough of them into 8’ logs to fill a triple axle log truck. A truck full would get $400 at a mill that turns them into shavings and sawdust for animal bedding.
The truck driver would get $200 for the 10 minutes it took him to load, 20 minute drive, and 10 minute unload, and I’d get $200 for about the 80 hours of work to cut, trim all the branches, measure and cut into 24 footers, drag out of wood, then cut into 8 footers and stack.
The worst part is I’d then give the $200 to the shavings mill and another trucker (with a dump truck) to bring sawdust for my wife’s horses and end up with $0. ....gee somebody’s getting scr*wed here...twice.

yup. a friend of mine had 5 truck loads of wood hauled off last month. he and 3 others spent lots of time cutting, skidding, cleaning wood, then stacking it for truck driver. i believe the trucker used a self loder, as i recall, and charged $250 per load. mill paid about $700 per load. by the time all the guys split up the profits they probibly made less than mcdonalds paid. oh, on top of that, their land has timber exemption, so now he has to pay tax on all the wood processed.

last year i had a forester walk my land to make my timber plan for state timber exemption. basically he said if i harvest my timber, i shoulkd have enough to break even after i pay loggrers and truckers. in other words, i rape my land, make it ugly as he** and end up with nothing.

Hmm, where do i sign up

 

[plowhog]

i had a forester walk my land to make my timber plan for state timber exemption. basically he said if i harvest my timber, i shoulkd have enough to break even after i pay loggrers and truckers. in other words, i rape my land, make it ugly as he** and end up with nothing.

I could make good $$$ doing a timber harvest. But of more significance to me is removal of maybe half my trees would greatly improve the health of the forest and promote future healthy growth. Not to mention reducing the fire hazard.

If the CA permit process was not so onerous and costly, I would have already done this. In CA, a registered professional forester must prepare and sign your permit application. You can't do it yourself. The most recent one I spoke to wanted $20k+ in admin fees to prepare this-- before even getting to hiring a logger-- and with unknown additional costs if he discovered endangered species, etc.

 

[grsthegreat]

calif sucks..... i can log mine if i wanted to, but im not doing it for free. i spend an inordinate amount of time going thru and chipping deadfall. gets kinda old. but i have gone and walked timbered sections and there a true mess when logger leaves.

i did have 2 acres cleared of beetle killed trees a few years ago. guy used a forest mulcher to clean it up. did a nice job. ended up costing me about $3,000 when all said and done. did not make a dime off of harvestable timber. ended up giving it all away a small trailer at a time.

after he cleared alot of the standing dead trees out, the remainding trees are now subjected to alot more wind damage than ever before. i had 4 huge, live trees topple right out of the ground this year. root balls and all. i never had that happen before in 25 years. only now that i had a thinning of the area.

i have no intention of doing any more of that.

heres 2 hours of my life today. i had to clear this section of dead fall that remained after last years cleaning in this section. worst part was dragging crap up the hill. at least the dog got to play stick for a few hours. i cant believe how good she is at finding her stick no matter where i throw it. even if she does not see me throw it. she will buzz all over the place until she finds it. if i hid it under a pile of sticks, she will pull the pile apart to retrieve hers.

 

[BoylermanCT]

Local mill near me will take the pine and give you 1/3 the amount back in lumber. You bring in the logs on your trailer and leave with lumber.

Around here we have thousands of dead ash trees. The emerald ash borer is killing every ash in the state. Lots of good wood there too.

 

[czechsonofagun]

I use pine all the time. I have a small sawmill and I never need to buy lumber for sheds and general backyard use. BTW compared to hw store lumber the local pine is beautiful, smells better and is a pleasure to work with.