Pitless adapter is undersized. Replace or leave in place?

   / Pitless adapter is undersized. Replace or leave in place? #21  
Really need to know a little about the pump and depth to water in the well. I can help you figure that out if you like. If there is no control box that tells the horsepower, a clip around amp meter will work. 5 amps is 1/2HP. 7 amps is 3/4HP. 9 amps is 1HP. 11.8 amps is 1.5HP. Then a wide open flow bucket test will let you know the GPM series. All our valves do the same thing, but we make small valves for small pumps. Large valves for large pumps. Low pressure valves and high pressure valves for low and high pressure pumps. Just need to get the right one for the application.
 
   / Pitless adapter is undersized. Replace or leave in place? #22  
Really need to know a little about the pump and depth to water in the well. I can help you figure that out if you like. If there is no control box that tells the horsepower, a clip around amp meter will work. 5 amps is 1/2HP. 7 amps is 3/4HP. 9 amps is 1HP. 11.8 amps is 1.5HP. Then a wide open flow bucket test will let you know the GPM series. All our valves do the same thing, but we make small valves for small pumps. Large valves for large pumps. Low pressure valves and high pressure valves for low and high pressure pumps. Just need to get the right one for the application.

ok wil get some info well is 385 ffet deep will get more
 
   / Pitless adapter is undersized. Replace or leave in place? #23  
ok wil get some info well is 385 ffet deep will get more

Static level or depth to water is important too if you can find it.
 
   / Pitless adapter is undersized. Replace or leave in place? #24  
Static level or depth to water is important too if you can find it.

For those of us who always want to know more about a subject----

To my way of thinking knowing the depth the pump is set is much more important than the static level of water.
What does depth to water really do for you in this context?
Dynamic level is also important depending upon the well's recharge rate and withdrawal rate.
Thanks
 
   / Pitless adapter is undersized. Replace or leave in place? #25  
Dynamic or pumping level is needed to size the pump. This is the maximum depth of water in the well when pumping max flow. The static level is the highest water level of the well before the pump is started. The static level is needed to size the CSV. In say a 300' deep well the pumping level could be 250' deep. So, the pump needs to be able to produce water from 250' deep plus 50-60 PSI (138') to supply the pressure a house needs. However, if the static water level is 20' from the surface, even though the pump is set at 300', it is only lifting from 20'. Water under water doesn't weigh anything. Drop a bucket on a rope down 300' to get water, and it won't weigh anything until you lift it to 19', which is above the 20' static water level. This means a pump that was designed to pump from 250' plus 138' for the 60 PSI must deliver 388' of head or 168 PSI. When the pump is first turned on and the water level is still at 20', that pump will produce more pressure than needed. Only after the water level has pulled down to 250' will the full capacity of the pump be needed.

When using a Cycle Stop Valve and only taking a 3 GPM shower, a 20 GPM pump is only producing 3 GPM. At 3 GPM rate the water level in the well may not drop below the 20' static level. When the CSV closes to make the pump produce only 3 GPM and the water level is only at 20', the pump might produce more back pressure than the CSV can handle. We only recommend a 125 PSI difference between what the pump can do and the setting of the CSV. Setting the CSV to deliver 50 PSI constant to the house means the inlet or back pressure to the CSV cannot be more than 175 PSI. 175 PSI is the same as 404' of head. So, if the pump is capable of building more than 404' of head, it will make more pressure than the CSV can handle. We figure the maximum pressure the pump can build from the static level instead of the dynamic level, because when using very low flow rates with a CSV the water level in the well may not pull down at all.
 
   / Pitless adapter is undersized. Replace or leave in place? #26  
Is this the same as using a watts type pressure regulator set for 50psig? I think your csv would eliminate erratic temp output on my propane bosch instant hot water heater. The pump cycles to often during a shower.
 
   / Pitless adapter is undersized. Replace or leave in place? #27  
A Cycle Stop Valve works similar to a pressure reducing valve. However, a pressure reducing valve would need to go after the pressure tank/pressure switch so as not to deadhead and burn up the pump. A pressure reducing valve after the pressure tank could hold the pressure to the house more constant but will not stop the pump from cycling on and off. A Cycle Stop Valve goes before the pressure tank/pressure switch and will hold the house pressure constant while eliminating pump cycles.

We sell a lot of Cycle Stop Valves to make instant water heaters function better. The constant 50 PSI from a CSV makes the instant water heater stay on where as a pump cycling on and off between 40 and 60 will cause an instant water heater to turn on and off, giving the user a cold water sandwich in the shower.
 
 
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