Pitless adapter is undersized. Replace or leave in place?

[fried1765]

I didn't pick up anything in the original post about the pump to pitless adapter size of the pipe....though maybe that was inferred with the talk of restriction.

Not really that big a deal to dig down to the adapter. You might have to torch or grind a larger hole to get the bigger one to go in....most time, they use a hole saw, but since the hole is already there, no place for the center bit. Guess you could move the hole to a new place on the casing and put some kind of patch over the old hole......

You can buy a hole saw adapter that will center a larger hole saw in an existing hole.

 

[Ford850]

Valveman - How does the CSV affect the pump's electricity use compared to the traditional pressure switch and large pressure tank system? I've followed your posts for years on here but I don't remember if this has been discussed. As I understand it, the CSV will run the pump much longer, but with fewer start/stop cycles. That would definitely increase the life of the pump, as most mechanical processes perform better this way (HVAC, Engines, Etc), but I'm curious if the electricity use increases or decreases overall. Thanks.

 

[Valveman]

Compared to cycling on and off too quickly, the CSV usually reduces the electric bill. It doesn't really matter though when the CSV increases the life of the pump by a factor of four or so. Here is a video on how the amps of pumps drop when using a CSV. It is counter intuitive, but just how pumps work.

VFD does not save energy compared to CSV technical curve video on Vimeo

 

[Furu]

snip.... Hope you haven't purchased that constant pressure system yet. There are two ways to get constant pressure. Most pump guys will try to sell you the variable speed type of pump that will cost several thousand more than a standard pump and will only last a fraction as long. You can also use a Cycle Stop Valve to make a standard pump become a constant pressure system. This system is disruptive to the pump industry because it actually makes standard pumps last much longer than normal and cost a fraction as much as those variable speed pumps.

I am not going to dispute the efficacy of the CSV as I have not yet had the time to fully research it and the claims that you attribute to its value.
I do believe based upon my reading of and then rereading of this thread that you are not being honest with the members of TBN. Now maybe I have missed some sentence that disputes my conclusion, but you sir are being deceptive in your posts as to what you are doing.

As the inventor of the CSV and I quote from your profile:
Occupation:
Inventor and owner of Cycle Stop Valves, which came from years of experience with VFD's
Real Name:
Cary Austin

You have much to gain by pushing the CSV. Again you maybe correct and it is the best thing since sliced bread. But you need to let folks know that you are pushing your own product and invention. Otherwise you are making folks think you are a flim-flam man who is trying to take advantage of folks. Be honest. If your product is as you state it will sell itself. Educate folks on it but BE HONEST.

 

[Valveman]

Wow! I think if you read my profile there is no question I am the Inventor and owner of Cycle Stop Valves. That is why I put it on my profile. The name "Valveman" should have also given you a clue. If you need to hear it from someone else here is a link to several hundred reviews from OTHER people. Reviews – Cycle Stop Valves, Inc

But who else would know better how something works than the inventor themselves? Been doing this since 1993 when I stopped using Variable Speed Pumps in favor of Cycle Stop Valves. I could make a lot more money selling Variable Speed Pumps like everyone else is selling than simple and inexpensive valves. I studied electrical engineering and can talk the talk and sell VFD's better than anyone. The problem is, I realized I was doing my customers and injustice selling them expensive and short lived VFD's when a simple, inexpensive valve would do a better job. That is also why I am having to tell you about this as the pump manufacturers don't want you to know about it. I do this to help people with their pump systems. If I was in it just to make money I would be pushing VFD's instead.

 

[Furu]

Wow! I think if you read my profile there is no question I am the Inventor and owner of Cycle Stop Valves. That is why I put it on my profile. The name "Valveman" should have also given you a clue. If you need to hear it from someone else here is a link to several hundred reviews from OTHER people. Reviews – Cycle Stop Valves, Inc
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My point was and is you never mentioned that you were pushing your own product in your posts on the subject. Yes it is in your profile but I would suspect that fewer than 10 percent of TBN membership check the profiles of everyone who posts a glowing and over the top endorsement of a product. Probably fewer than 0.1 percent bother to look at the profiles of any poster.
Your are correct the name Valveman made me look to see what and where you were coming from.

My point which you have missed in its entirety and obviously don't care is that you could have been upfront in your posts talking about the product that you invented so that readers knew that you were pushing your own invention (nothing wrong with pushing your own invention, be proud of it) but don't hide your connection to the product as it makes it look underhanded and folks don't trust something or someone they view as underhanded.
Perception is not reality but it sure can color the appearance of it. Just saying. Take it anyway you want to I really don't care. You failed to identify where you were coming from and either inadvertently or intentionally mislead folks as to your connection with the product. I was pointing out to the readers that there was information that maybe they do not know.

 

[Valveman]

I apologize if you didn't know. I have probably only explained that in a few dozen out of 355 posts. Just didn't think I needed to state the obvious in EVERY post. My posts get too long as it is.

 

[M E Cook]

Wow! I think if you read my profile there is no question I am the Inventor and owner of Cycle Stop Valves. That is why I put it on my profile. The name "Valveman" should have also given you a clue. If you need to hear it from someone else here is a link to several hundred reviews from OTHER people. Reviews Cycle Stop Valves, Inc

But who else would know better how something works than the inventor themselves? Been doing this since 1993 when I stopped using Variable Speed Pumps in favor of Cycle Stop Valves. I could make a lot more money selling Variable Speed Pumps like everyone else is selling than simple and inexpensive valves. I studied electrical engineering and can talk the talk and sell VFD's better than anyone. The problem is, I realized I was doing my customers and injustice selling them expensive and short lived VFD's when a simple, inexpensive valve would do a better job. That is also why I am having to tell you about this as the pump manufacturers don't want you to know about it. I do this to help people with their pump systems. If I was in it just to make money I would be pushing VFD's instead.

ok i have a pressure tank set 40 /60 do i put your valve inline before the tee and switch going into tank

 

[Valveman]

ok i have a pressure tank set 40 /60 do i put your valve inline before the tee and switch going into tank

Yes the CSV goes before the pressure tank/pressure switch and before any water lines or hydrants.

 

[M E Cook]

I have one inch pvc pipe not sure on hp of pump was in when i bought land what valve should I buy and what psi thanks for the help