Planet of the Apes may not be too far off!

   / Planet of the Apes may not be too far off! #11  
Right on the nose! I am more and more convinced that laws and ordinances passed today are to grab more control. I just hope my dog doesn't catch wind of this - she'll probably end up suing me for divorce! I guarantee there'd be a lawyer willing to take her case...

Fuzzmental
 
   / Planet of the Apes may not be too far off! #12  
Does that mean I can claim them as dependants on my state income tax? /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif

PitbullMidwest
 
   / Planet of the Apes may not be too far off! #13  
CowboyDoc,

A few years ago I heard that the PETA herd was moving toward passing laws on animal GuardianShip. It really is the camel's nose under the tent. Once the animal has rights when will those rights prevent it from being castrated, penned, much less slaughtered for food? And this is the reason for the Guardianship laws. Its just the first step.

If you think I'm being some sort of Paranoid Conspiracy Nut, this was the plan that was outlined in the article I read. I'm sure the article was in the Wall Street Journal and they were interviewing PETA Herd Type O People.

I had not heard of any movement in the state legistatures until now. I'm sure I read the article a couple of years ago and it was just a bunch of nonsense that I would never hear again.... Guess I was wrong...

Scary stuff.....
Dan McCarty
 
   / Planet of the Apes may not be too far off! #14  
Control seems to be the name of the game, first your land then your animals next your children. You will only be the one who pays for what someone else determines what is best for your lawn, pets, or your children. The thing I would like to know is who is it that is introducing these insane laws and restrictions to our freedom? And, why is it that the people we elect would think these things are good for us? This kind of thing wil only produce more Ruby Ridge type of situations.
 
   / Planet of the Apes may not be too far off! #15  
SHF, I agree with you, and I'll get to that later. I don't know the exact wording of this bill, or any Rhode Island law for that matter, but it seems to me all this bill does is to exchange one term for another. To have teeth, the term would have to agree with other laws already on the books.
For example, I'm sure some states have laws against leaving a child unattended in a car, but I think most states use a general law on child endagerment. In ether case, for the law to apply to a dog left in a car, it would have to be worded with "guardian" etc. And the offense would already be covered under an animal cruelty law, so whats the point?
Of course, there is the obvious, that this is a step toward bringing animals up to the same level as humans, or taking us down to theirs.
For the past few years it seems to me that we are quickly becoming a nation of busy bodies, snitches, and tattle tales. The list of hotlines for reporting various offenses grows daily, as does the number of calls they recieve.

Ernie
 
   / Planet of the Apes may not be too far off! #16  
Question for Muhammad:

While going throught the posts over the last 24 hours, I encountered 3 post from this thread that couldn't be found by the server.

1. glennmac @ 10:04 PM 8/15
2. cowboydoc @10:28 PM 8/15
3. cowboydoc @7:30 AM 8/16

were these posts deleted or is this a problem on my end?

PitbullMidwest
 
   / Planet of the Apes may not be too far off! #17  
Hot dang! Our Black lab is due any day now! 10 or 12 little dependants! I guess they will need SS numbers first.

Steve
 
   / Planet of the Apes may not be too far off! #18  
Posts deleted. They were drifting from the topic and could have led to a rather negative discussion that was in the first place unnecessary.

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   / Planet of the Apes may not be too far off! #19  
The post of mine that was deleted was one in which I questioned whether the article in Western Horseman might be fictional. I also use a somewhat crude description of another "false" article that I thought had been published in the same magazine. Upon reflection, I now seem to recall that the Western Horseman article was actually the rebuttal to the "false" article I was thinking of. This turns out to be confusing in my mind because that article may have been one that was deleted here.

Doc's first deleted posted suggested that my crude reference was insensitive. I dont know what his second deleted post said. In any event, I agree that my reference--which was an attempt at humor--was a poor choice of words, even as humor, and I hope uncharacteristic of my usual style. I'll apologize to all.

Having said that, I regret the censorship. I really doubt that Doc or I would have gone off the deep end.
 
   / Planet of the Apes may not be too far off! #20  
Is it extremely ironic or is it just me (they don't seem to be able to get my medication balanced quite right in the hot weather). Posts relating to control and loss of freedom are censored through exertion of control over freedom. Is there a PETA sensitive nerve harbored in a previoulsy unsuspected quarter? Is this whole thing a gag to see how the "sane" among us will get twitterpated? Stay tuned, just when you thought it couldn't get worse or go on any longer it just continues to get worse.

Isn't it bad enough that it is a felony (in CA) to kick your neighbor's cat even if in the act of its spraying your threshold?

What next fellow guardians, mandatory schooling for our wards. What about state (Fed Gov) sponsored health care for them. It will only take just a little more tax.

If you can't spank your own child just think what putting a training collar (Radio type) on your ward would do to enrage the community. Anti-barking collars, mild CORRECTIVE shock my a--, go to jail, go directly to jail do not pass go, do not collect $200.

Maybe we should all get a copy of Aldous Huxley's "Brave New World" or "Through the Looking Glass" or both. I never previously understood on an emotional level what the James Cagney character in "Soylent Green" was expressing when he volunteered for euthanasia. While not personally interested, I think I am beginning to understand what the author/director was having him say.

Patrick

Patrick
 

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