Planet of the Apes may not be too far off!

kubmech · Aug 19, 2001

Has anyone heard about the S(<^^&@g who ran the puppies
through the harvester./w3tcompact/icons/mad.gif Two of 'em lived through it, barely!!!!!!!!!!!!! Looks like he's facing four years, anybody know the scoop???????? What the heck is wrong with people./w3tcompact/icons/frown.gif very,very/w3tcompact/icons/frown.gif

scruffy · Aug 19, 2001

Better dig out your map to find out where K-Falls is located. It happens to be just north of the California border in Southern Oregon....The water restriction was placed by your friendly Federal Government, and is meant to be inforced when the water levels are low....although that does NOT help the local agricultural set, nor keep them from slowly going bankrupt.

ERNIEB · Aug 19, 2001

We had a simular situation here concerning the Edwards Aquafer. The Sierra Club sued the Federal Gov. to protect the fountain darter. The results have had a huge impact on Farmers, Ranchers, and even the city of San Antonio. The whole thing is too lengthy to go into here but, if you are a Texan land owner, and you think you have the right to free capture, you really should look into it and think again.

Ernie

jimmoore · Aug 19, 2001

Kubmech,here is an article from Fresno. Scroll down to puppy killer
http://www.ksee24.com/preview/main/morenews.asp#7

jimEdited by jimmoore on 08/19/01 10:48 AM (server time).

Anonymous Poster · Aug 22, 2001

Nah, couldn't be. Better check that with Glueguy, it is probably an urban legend or at best a hoax, surely your state would not prosecute a guy for defending his property from an errant animal whose owner was clearly negligent.

Trial starts today, you can view it on CourtTV or follow it online @ www.courttv.com See "Puppy Killer Goes To Trial".

PitbullMidwest

patrickg · Aug 22, 2001

PitBullMidwest, Are you in on this with the Glueguy? Trying to put me on? If I had a TV antenna I'd fall for it and check it out but I don't have an operable TV. Paid $50 to have my HiRes TV monitor repaired (32 inch - darned heavy, dropped it about 4 inches on one corner and the power supply broke a connecton due to board flex.) It works fine now but needs an input source. I suppose I could set up one of my DirecTV dishes on its portable tri-pod and check it out but I got "real things" to do waitin' in line ahead of TV watchin'.

Since this is the "Planet of the Apes" thread... anybody remember the Charelton Heston version who has seen the high tech remake? Discounting the modern special effects, how does it compare? Is it worth the ticket price?

I haven't followed the puppy kicking thing but expect that the sensationalism and potential rabble rousing by P)eople E)ating T)asty A)nimals, their fellow travelers, and other like minded groups who will seize on any opportunity to further their cause will distort the "real" issues to the extent that "just plain folk" will not have a clue 1. what actually happened, 2. why it happened, and 3. what, if anything, needed to be done about it.

In my best Solomaniacal manner I sugest that both parties should be given a year in county jail with sentance suspended pending successful completion of something like 300-500 hundred hours of community service in an animal shelter caring for abused and neglected animals (at a minimum rate of 20 hrs/wk and 20 hours or so of sensitivity training. This should chastise and admonish both Bozos for their collective parts in this as well as serving as a deterent for future puppy kickers to get caught or owners to allow their pets to get within range of a potential puppy kicker.

So what comes next? If Pets are to be upgraded to status of ward then should there be statutes equivalent to child endangerment for their protection. What about parallels to "Head Start" and all the other "lets take responsibility away from the parents/owners-guardians and put it in the hands of the collective, it takes a village, claptrap"?

Coming in time for Christmas... on CD or cassette, a canine choral group (composed of formerly kicked puppies) barking out a soulful version of "We Shall Overcome", recorded at a "Feed the Puppies" benefit concert.

Lessee now where did I put my Kevlar and Nomex underwear??????

Patrick

cowboydoc · Aug 22, 2001

Patrick,
amen on your comments. Second as far as to the remake I thought it was pretty good. It's pretty much the same story with different people. I get free tickets from the theatre so no big deal for me to go and see one. I don't think I'd pay ten bucks to go see it but I wouldn't pay $10 to go see most movies! As far as effects go they are good. The apes are really different in this movie with regards to different kinds. The effects are up to date and well done. All in all if you're a movie goer then go see it. If you don't go see movies wait for the video.

StoneHeartFarm · Aug 23, 2001

A few weeks ago, our news had a report of a horse slasher at the fair (caught before he left the fair grounds). A couple weeks ago there was a news blip (and reward posters) about a drive by shooting on a Shetland pony. THIS week, our news is about the drive by shooting of a prize Morgan and a goat.

What the heck is going on? Anybody else hearing about this kind of stuff in their neck of the woods? Are horses getting in the drug business? "Honest officer, the goat was just holdin, it belonged to the pony."

SHF

dmccarty · Aug 23, 2001

We had a guy a few years ago that did a "Drive By" on some horses at the NC State Vet school. Real brave guy. He was eventually arrested and convicted. There are some truely evil people in the world....

Later...
Dan

dmccarty · Aug 23, 2001

Richard,

There were a couple of articles in the Wall Street Journal this week that shows even more of the logic of even the mainstream Environmental movement.

One was about a test that happened down in AL about filtering mercury out of coal fired plants. When I worked with the Fish and Game Commission in FL a big fishery concern was mercury in fish. Especially in the Everglades. At the time, and I'm not sure its changed, there was lots of theories on where the mercury came from but no evidence. Was it from power plant emissions? From fertilizers from the Sugar Cane Farms around the Lake? Naturally occuring? Combination of all three. Nobody really knew. The reality was that the fish was/is unsafe to eat for young children and pregnant women....

The filter experiment worked in removing mercury from the plant emissions. Of course the power business does not want to spend the money to remove the poison which is absurd. The cost is just going to be passed on to the consumers which frankly should be done. We are consuming the power and we should pay to keep the production as clean as possible within reason. I forgot which Environmental Wacky the WSJ qouted but he was against the scrubbers since it might lead to more coal fired plants being built? HUH? What? Where are we to get the power? We can't use oil, gas, or coal. Nuke is out as well. Solar. Yeah Right. What are we supposed to run our society on? Wishfull thinking?

Does not make sense....

Another article was on the transmutation of radioactive waste into fairly benign materials. Some scientist's at one of the national labs have worked out a process that can take spent fuel, highly dangerous stuff, and mutate the material into fairly safe stuff. The material that still "glows" is only radioactive for 300 years instead of tens of thousands of years. They have gotten this to work in the lab. Sure seems like something that should be looked into since we have tens of thousands of tons of this stuff sitting at Nuke Plants and other not real secure/safe sites waiting for disposal.

Why can't we dispose of the waste? The taxpayers have spend 5-8 billion dollars for the depository in Nevada but the Environmental Wackos don't want to have the waste transported from the plants which are filling up with very dangerous material. Even in the depository, which is the best place that could be found to store this material in US, the waste is dangerous for tens of thousands of years.

The scientist have a possible solution to knock that time down to 300 years which is pretty danged good.

The problem? The cost. It might cost 280 BILLION dollars. Which is a heck of a lot of money. On the other hand the scientists think that the cost would be greatly reduced since power is somehow produced in the transmuting process and could be sold. Do you think CA would like to have some cheap power? How about other western states?

The Sierra Club President said that we should not do this because it would cost to much money. Hmmm, let me see if I get this right. We can move the material from the Nuke Plants where the stuff is not being stored in the most secure and safe manner possible. We have a place for secure and safe disposal but we can't use it. And now that there might be a process to clean up the mess we can't do that because it costs to much......

Does not make sense.

The third wacko story was from Germany. A man with an "estate" with 100 oak trees, sounds like he has 10 acres to me, /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif had a single tree killed by lightning. He has been on a months long legal battle with the state trying to get permission to cut down the dead tree. He has multiple sources of documentation from different arborists that the tree is indeed dead. The state regulates such things and it took them months to decide what he should do with this single dead tree. The eventually got back to him and said yes you can cut down the dead tree but you will have to replace it with a new tree that will cost $1,000!

He replied that since the tree was now DEAD it was now WOOD and not a TREE so they no longer had jurisdiction and could not tell him what to do regarding the dead tree aka wood. /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif No response from The State. The article did not say if he had cut down the tree or not....... /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif

This is not stuff of fiction its reality....... /w3tcompact/icons/frown.gif

Later...
Dan