Please help...47 or 57 HP series 3?

flyinghigh · Jun 24, 2023

Spent all morning at the dealership. This is the last tractor for my dad and his acreage. He has never had a new tractor in his life and now his days are fleeting (health condition daily chemo pills) we are looking at the Hydro with cab either the 347 or 357. Noticed the 357 has 2 gallon larger fuel tank...is that because it burns that much more fuel? Price difference is $2900. First time LS buyer. Please feel free to share any thoughts, opinions or experiences.

Use will be primarly a grapple for brush followed by a bercomac self contained 33HP 72 inch wide snowblower followed by a cycle bar mower for ditches.

Thank you!

Bearsixty7 · Jun 24, 2023

If the 357 is in the budget, get the 357. You can never go wrong with a 357

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ROUSTABOUT · Jun 24, 2023

There is no replacement for displacement.

CloverKnollFarms · Jun 24, 2023

ROUSTABOUT said:
There is no replacement for displacement.

They are the same displacement

ROUSTABOUT · Jun 24, 2023

CloverKnollFarms said:
They are the same displacement

Then one has fuel turned up higher. Ford 4 cyl tractors are the same. 5610, 6610, 7610, same engine.

RjCorazza · Jun 24, 2023

None of the listed applications are horsepower intensive. Spend the $2900 to get your dad another attachment or two to make his life easier, or add a few tractor options. The cab with AC and heat will be a God send if he's coming from an open station machine!
Good luck with everything.

flyinghigh · Jun 24, 2023

thanks guys...we are getting the cab and air version...yeah, that $ would pay for the grapple. Called a big dealer down in TX, they sell way more of the 57 than the 45, 47, or 52s. keep replies coming please and thanks!

Mrsig · Jun 25, 2023

I say more power the better if you can afford it..

rScotty · Jun 25, 2023

Using less throttle makes the 57 into a 47 hp tractor. So you get two choices for the price of one.

KCTractors · Jun 25, 2023

flyinghigh said:
Spent all morning at the dealership. This is the last tractor for my dad and his acreage. He has never had a new tractor in his life and now his days are fleeting (health condition daily chemo pills) we are looking at the Hydro with cab either the 347 or 357. Noticed the 357 has 2 gallon larger fuel tank...is that because it burns that much more fuel? Price difference is $2900. First time LS buyer. Please feel free to share any thoughts, opinions or experiences.

Use will be primarly a grapple for brush followed by a bercomac self contained 33HP 72 inch wide snowblower followed by a cycle bar mower for ditches.

Thank you!

I have a MT3 42 and use a front mount 72" snow-blower. I have 1,700' drive-way to clean out. I wish I would have bought the 57 Hp tractor. The 42 Hp does the job but slow.

Cycledude · Jun 25, 2023

I would definitely choose the 357 but either one should work pretty nicely. The extra 2 gallons of fuel would be nice and handy.

flyinghigh · Jun 25, 2023

Thanks guys...going to go with the 57 appreciate all the input

3 Horse Ranch · Jun 25, 2023

The words seldom said by a tractor owner; "I wish I had gotten the less powerful tractor."

flyinghigh · Jun 28, 2023

Well, one of the members here really through me a curve ball...he was all set to buy a 357 when he came upon the TYM T574...now he has me looking at a T494 that I had a chance to drive today. some of the things that appear better:

1. A true 3rd function option. up/down buttons built in the joystick at the factory. just hook up the hoses and a small kit ($850 installed) and you are able to use all 3 functions at the same time. the lines to the front are METAL not hoses.
2. Total bucket lift is 110 inch vs 94...man this is a big deal when stacking brush for a fire.
3. 100 lb more loader lift
4. 1000lb more 3 point lift
5. 7 gallon larger fuel tank
6. I can get a 49 HP motor WITHOUT a turbo and complications that can come with that. Motor has no computer, no sensors and the def system is a stand alone detachable module that can be disconnected at any time. If you get the motor started it will keep running until you turn it off...it can't get turned off by a computer issue.
7. It still has the rear controls for the 3 point so you dont have to go back and forth into the cab.
8. It has an actual height adjustment knob on the seat in addition to the bounce tension. The arm rests are not adjustable like the LS
9. It has the option of 3 rear remotes and space for a 3rd control level in the console
10. the cabin is much larger, I am 6 1 and it has a foot of headroom vs a few inches in the LS
11. better visibility as the pillars of the cab are thinner
12. it is quieter than the LS
13. it is $5k less than the LS

I don't know guys, this has really given me pause.

Thoughts?

ptsg · Jun 28, 2023

Don't get your hopes too high on running 3 functions at once. That most likely won't happen with pretty much any compact tractor on the market. Just not enough flow to use everything at once.

That's why in real world operation, there isn't much difference on having a "true" 3rd function vs a diverter valve other than the way those work, but still won't do 3 functions at the same time. The diverter on the other hand, will give you the ability to feather the controls vs only ON/OFF in the 3rd function.

TYM makes some great tractors, don't discount the former Branson models too. Built even beefier, heavier and stronger. Plus, that Kukje engine with little to no electronics it's just the icing on top of the cake.

flyinghigh · Jun 28, 2023

thanks ptsg...in the real world is there enough power to operate all 3 with an empty grapple/bucket so you can reset after you dump the load on the pile and are driving back for more?

Anyone know how the speed of the bucket operation is on the LS vs the TYM?

G31 · Jun 28, 2023

I have an MT347HC and love everything but the loader dump speed. It’s pretty slow. The loader arms are a bit short vs other brands, but I don’t need to stack or pile anything over 6 feet. It runs my 72” Bush Hog just fine as well.

No problems with the various components so far in my 170 hours. Computer control is just something I’ve learned to accept in tractors, cars, electric motors, etc.

CloverKnollFarms · Jun 28, 2023

The TYM 4820 is what I have, and it is a sweetheart of a tractor too. The Kukje motor is a better option than the MTron imho

Bearsixty7 · Jun 28, 2023

flyinghigh said:
Well, one of the members here really through me a curve ball...he was all set to buy a 357 when he came upon the TYM T574...now he has me looking at a T494 that I had a chance to drive today. some of the things that appear better:

1. A true 3rd function option. up/down buttons built in the joystick at the factory. just hook up the hoses and a small kit ($850 installed) and you are able to use all 3 functions at the same time. the lines to the front are METAL not hoses.
2. Total bucket lift is 110 inch vs 94...man this is a big deal when stacking brush for a fire.
3. 100 lb more loader lift
4. 1000lb more 3 point lift
5. 7 gallon larger fuel tank
6. I can get a 49 HP motor WITHOUT a turbo and complications that can come with that. Motor has no computer, no sensors and the def system is a stand alone detachable module that can be disconnected at any time. If you get the motor started it will keep running until you turn it off...it can't get turned off by a computer issue.
7. It still has the rear controls for the 3 point so you dont have to go back and forth into the cab.
8. It has an actual height adjustment knob on the seat in addition to the bounce tension. The arm rests are not adjustable like the LS
9. It has the option of 3 rear remotes and space for a 3rd control level in the console
10. the cabin is much larger, I am 6 1 and it has a foot of headroom vs a few inches in the LS
11. better visibility as the pillars of the cab are thinner
12. it is quieter than the LS
13. it is $5k less than the LS

I don't know guys, this has really given me pause.

Thoughts?

Sounds like an easy decision.
I'd consider the dealership distance and capability as well, do they both have mechanics and work bays? Do you get a good feeling about their longevity in the market for years down the road when you need parts and service?

TYM wasn't around me when I was looking and I had not heard good things about the Branson line.
Today if I was in the market, I would definitely give TYM a good look.

flyinghigh · Jun 28, 2023

That is one reason we ordered a berco...dedicated HP to the snowblower and the ability to lift it far off the ground to take on the 10 ft drifts from the top down. That said, if we are going to go with a turbo tractor might as well get all the HP we can in the class. At this point however, the appeal of a 49HP non ECM motor is very attractive