Tractor Sizing Please help a guy out!

[Eric102]

I'm hopeful Kubota will come up with something.

I remember when shopping for my cut 11 years ago lots of folks saying the same thing, glad I didn't wait for them to switch over I tried the Kubota and if I remember right Massey rocker pedals and hated them immediately, my old knee and ankle couldn't take awkward angles for more than a few minutes at a time.

 

[Jchonline]

Thanks again for all the input like I said it has truly been helpful. But, I can not overlook the fact that overwhelmingly while no one has explicitly said do not get the JD almost everyone has said don't get this or that from JD. I did go back to one of my local Kubota dealers to see if it was something they could do for me as far as that wretched rocker pedal (I know some people love it but my size 16's hate it so don't be offended) because that's the main sticking point keeping me from buying the MX 4800 or 5200. The service guy said he was going to talk to the service manager to see what they could do so I'm hopeful on that front. The JD does fit perfect as it sits but with the pedal adjustment I could get much more tractor for the price from Kubota and not have to worry about after market or older used implements.

At least on the M62, I dont use the treadle like a rocker at all. The forward has a piece that sticks out to the right side... so I use the front of my foot to go forward then move my foot to the back portion of the main pedal to go backwards. It is essentially 2 pedals to me and I use the front part of my foot to actuate both just like in a car/truck.

 

[Tractorable]

Did you try the rocker pedal on a Kubota Grand L? It’s way better IMO than the rocker pedal on the standard L’s.

 

[mstrucker2003]

Jchonline and Tractorable both of you are on the right track. I suggested that to the dealer because I do like that design a lot better and it's ease of use for my foot. Right now the problem seems to be engineering because they hook up differently. The guy in the service department said he was going to talk to the service manager to see if they could make it work somehow.

 

[paulfun9]

I also liked the pedal on the grand l better but still like the dual pedal set op on other brands much more.
Seems to me no matter what they do having a single pedal somehow gives me discomfort in the knee or the ankle. Some have a way of transmitting a weird feeling in my hip also but do understand that I have had serious injuries and surgeries on my hips, knees and my right ankle at different times in my life.

 

[mstrucker2003]

Well this is what I received back from Kubota. Basically a yeah whatever so thanks again for all your help and input and I see a new John Deere in the future. Stay tuned!


Thank you for contacting Kubota Customer Satisfaction and providing us with feedback on the treadle pedal. It is through correspondence such as yours that we are able to continue to improve our products and services and we genuinely appreciate the time you have taken to provide us your experience.

Unfortunately I have no information one way or another regarding future designs for the pedal. I will be happy to pass on your feedback though. We sincerely appreciate your interest in Kubota products, and have logged your comments in the event that future review is necessary.

Regards,

Jeff M.
Customer Satisfaction Representative

 

[Jchonline]

Did you try the rocker pedal on a Kubota Grand L? It’s way better IMO than the rocker pedal on the standard L’s. View attachment 621349

Yes this is exactly like mine. Basically acts like 2 pedals. Sorry to hear there were no options for you on a lower end model. Glad to see you made a decision and are moving forward!

 

[dodge man]

I never understand all the hate for the JD quick attach system for their FEL. Its amazingly simple and works just as well as a SSQA. One advantage of it is it doesn't add any weight. On a bigger tractor with a lot of lift capacity not a big deal but on small tractors a SSQA hurts lift capacity. You can get any implement that is common for a JD setup and unless you have a bunch of SSQA stuff laying around, stick with the JD system. All I have is a bucket and forks for my JD and I feel there was not extra cost for this. I think the old "you will pay more for the JD quick attach implements" is an old argument not valid unless you get into a bunch of implements meant for a skid steer.

 

[paulfun9]

I just did a search for local attachments and could not find one for the JD used unless I am willing to buy the hole tractor. I stopped counting the SSQA attachments that would be useable at a reasonable cost when I got to 75.

All the vendors local to me wanted more to build anything they advertised to fit the JD system.

I wonder what the count and cost would be if I searched out farther and was willing to pay shipping?

 

[dodge man]

I would agree there are not a lot of used JD front attachments out there. Everything Attachments charges around $50 to make it for a JD vs. SSQA. Most people have maybe two or three FEL attachments?

When I first looked at JD after owning a Kubota without a quick attach bucket the first thing I looked at was their quick attach system. I heard so much negative about it. My first thought was that is so simple it is brilliant. If you have never looked at the system you have to see it to understand it. There are two hitch pins you pop off and just roll out of the bucket.

 

[rScotty]

Did you try the rocker pedal on a Kubota Grand L? It痴 way better IMO than the rocker pedal on the standard L痴. View attachment 621349

Hmmm.... I guess it's time for another visit to the Kubota dealer for me. I've not looked at all their models, but just assumed that they were like mine & all had "upsidedown L" shaped type of rocker pedal shown in tractorable's post #43. Mine has that same pedal. and just like him I also use it in both directions by moving my foot so that I push it down in either direction using the front of my foot - just as jchonline described (post #42)....although I'd say he described the motion better than I have.

Anyway, when used that way, the pedal is a reasonable compromise between a true rocking pedal and two different pedals like most of the world prefers. And it has safety advantages for the transmission; it's impossible to push both down at once. Think about that....

What I'm saying is that I thought that ALL the Kubota models had that same upside down L shaped rocker pedal. Is that wrong?

This may be a case of the classic definition of ignorance on my part, i.e. thinking that all the models had the same L shaped rocker just because all the models I looked at did.

I may be way wrong there.
rScotty

 

[mstrucker2003]

What I'm saying is that I thought that ALL the Kubota models had that same upside down L shaped rocker pedal. Is that wrong?

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rScotty

Unfortunately you are wrong. I personally know the L4701, MX48,52 and 5800 all have the rocker pedal and I was told because of the way they hook up they can't be interchanged with the pedal like you have. Also the tractors that do have the pedal like yours they either don't fit me or are way to big for what I need. As far as the JD vs SS Quick Attach debate my one half cent (because I am by far no expert or even a novice) based on the research I've done you can have a million implements available to you but most people only need a select few. As for me at this point I only need/want 2. That's a bucket which will come with the tractor and a grapple. Now I asked what the difference was to get the SSQA vs the JDQA and it was about $600. I just don't see paying extra just for the possibility of being able to buy something I may never need. Everything Attachments charges $50 extra to make their grapple JDQA compatible so for me whenever I get a grapple I'll just pay the $50.

 

[Scrambler82]

I am 6'2", 34" legs, 12.5 feet, and 10 acres, my Max28 has ample room, in fact I have to draw the seat up a little when driving forward and push the set towards the rear of the tractor when using the backhoe.

Don't think Mahindra is making the Max28 any longer but there is one one step up the model ladder and if I were to do it again I would go up to it !

I use 60" implements, Brush Hog, great for larger area mowing and weed overgrowth, a 60" Box Blade and Grader/Scraper, the little tractor handles the 60" tools well.

Good Luck on your hunt and post up what you decide.

 

[paulfun9]

I guess for some of us having multiple tractors and owned tractors both befor and after the JD experience, meaning attachments that don’t fit and have to be sold and replaced or modified makes a difference. I’m also the type to come across something for sale and when I was stuck with that JD set up it always seemed nothing ever happened to fit.

I didn’t know they wanted that much for the switch, typical JD with crazy high prices! My last JD was purchased with no quick hitch and we modified one from a burnt tractor in a tractor scrap yard that isn’t too far away. Think the total cost was like 200 bucks including fuel to go pick it up.

 

[paulfun9]

I would agree there are not a lot of used JD front attachments out there. Everything Attachments charges around $50 to make it for a JD vs. SSQA. Most people have maybe two or three FEL attachments?

When I first looked at JD after owning a Kubota without a quick attach bucket the first thing I looked at was their quick attach system. I heard so much negative about it. My first thought was that is so simple it is brilliant. If you have never looked at the system you have to see it to understand it. There are two hitch pins you pop off and just roll out of the bucket.

I have no issue with how it works. Just that it doesn稚 work with the majority.
Imagine having to buy only JD forever just so you don稚 have to sell off the things you already have and replace them every time you buy a tractor. Also I don稚 own all JD so now that fits one brand attachment can稚 be used on the other machine.

Nothing says locked into one brand to me like a proprietary set up like that and my family and friends as well as myself haven稚 been impressed enough with JD to commit to the brand forever.

 

[mstrucker2003]

I have no issue with how it works. Just that it doesn稚 work with the majority.
Imagine having to buy only JD forever just so you don稚 have to sell off the things you already have and replace them every time you buy a tractor. Also I don稚 own all JD so now that fits one brand attachment can稚 be used on the other machine.

Nothing says locked into one brand to me like a proprietary set up like that and my family and friends as well as myself haven稚 been impressed enough with JD to commit to the brand forever.

Now that's why I said "one half cent" because you bring up a point I would have never thought about. With your argument if I bought the EA grapple with the JDQA then if I ever sold the tractor I would have to either buy another JD or sale the tractor grapple and all and start over if I wanted to buy another brand. Definitely something to take into consideration.

 

[RollTideRam]

Or you could buy a skid steer quick attach plate and weld it to your grapple. The Deere quick attach has two pins and two cuffs, that can be removed. I was going to do this to my grapple when I sold my Deere 3320 a few weeks ago. But the guy I sold my tractor to wanted the grapple and gave me what I paid for it 12 years ago, which was enough to buy a Titan Implement grapple for my new tractor.

 

[RollTideRam]

I know you are looking at Deere and Kubota, and are both good tractors. I just made the switch to Kioti. I tested a NX model that had a pretty good size cab. But I settled on a DK4710se series for my needs. I know you are tall, but did you adjust the seat suspension so the seats would not bottom out? Some people have over looked this and it could help you.

 

[dodge man]

To make a JD end loader SSQA is usually done with a plate that just hooks up to the JD quick attach. Like the OP said, most people only have a couple of FEL attachments so its not usually an issue.

 

[mstrucker2003]

I know you are looking at Deere and Kubota, and are both good tractors. I just made the switch to Kioti. I tested a NX model that had a pretty good size cab. But I settled on a DK4710se series for my needs. I know you are tall, but did you adjust the seat suspension so the seats would not bottom out? Some people have over looked this and it could help you.

I actually sat in a RX7320 cab and adjusted the seat up, down, left, right, front, back and every other way I could and it still didn't matter. The salesman was amazed himself. It's like a tornado which takes the right amount of hot and cold atmosphere I'm the right amount of height, weight and shoe size(16). So it's not that I'm particular to any brand actually those are just the only two I've found that fit me with the Deere fitting perfectly and even then it's only the 4M series and not the 4R or Cab because of the loader joystick placement. I'm sure if I went way up in size I could find something that worked but for 5 acres that wouldn't make any sense at all.