Thanks again for all the input like I said it has truly been helpful. But, I can not overlook the fact that overwhelmingly while no one has explicitly said do not get the JD almost everyone has said don't get this or that from JD. I did go back to one of my local Kubota dealers to see if it was something they could do for me as far as that wretched rocker pedal (I know some people love it but my size 16's hate it so don't be offended) because that's the main sticking point keeping me from buying the MX 4800 or 5200. The service guy said he was going to talk to the service manager to see what they could do so I'm hopeful on that front. The JD does fit perfect as it sits but with the pedal adjustment I could get much more tractor for the price from Kubota and not have to worry about after market or older used implements.