Plow fitment problem

   / Plow fitment problem #21  
Thanks it should all be good in a week or so, But I'm going to figure out a way to fish with it this way for sure. [:)]

It's a shame they done that to your plow, but sense they did, might as well just redo some of their work to fit your needs, You may be able to find a new draw bar for it but even then you may still have a issue. Are those set up so you could rotate the draw bar to adjust the pin locations? Looks as if you are well on your way to having it set up for your needs, I'll have to measure on mine and see where the edge of the tire in relation the the front plow edge falls with the 25" measurement you mentioned, where did you come up with that?

Ken Sweet gave that plow setup information in this old TBN thread

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/attachments/29965-turning-plow.html

He's a tractor and farm equipment dealer and is an expert on plows and implements in general.

Sweet Farm Equipment Co.,Disc Mowers, Compact Tractors,Implements, Ship Nationwide Daily

BTW: the width of the track on my Mahindra 5525 is about 58" measured from the centers of the rear tires.

Yes, that plow crossbar/drawbar can be rotated. Right now it's set properly for plowing. The way the pins are positioned now, there's no way to rotate the crossbar and simultaneously get the lower arm pins to attach correctly while maintaining the proper plow alignment.

No problem. I've just returned from my steel guy with a piece of 1/2" x 3" bar stock that I'll drill and weld in the correct place tomorrow.
 
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#22  
Sounds like a plan. Thanks for the links also.
 
   / Plow fitment problem #23  
Sounds like a plan. Thanks for the links also.

No problem.
Got the extension bracket welded to the plow this AM.

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I'll get the rust off later when I'm able to do some plowing.
 
   / Plow fitment problem #24  
The link Flusher provided to Kens "short and Sweet" plow tutorial (pardon the pun Kenny) touches upon a VERY usefull rule for setting up a plow. You set the TRACTOR to the plow and NOT vice versa. Wheel track width is VERY critical. That'll put the tire in the correct spot when the plow is correctly centered on it's "line of draft" behind the tractor. Many folks try to shift the plow left or right to align the right side of cut with the sidewall of the tire. What that does is put your plow to one side (usually too far to the left) causing unequal pull on one side. (tends to make the tractor steer to one side in a hard pull.....that also "eats" horsepower)

You can deviate from those measurements SOMEWHAT, but get away from them much and you'll have an ill handling tractor/plow combination (especially so when you have a plow that's a full load on the tractor) If you're pulling a plow that's really undersized to the power and weight of the tractor, you can get away with improper wheel track settings. Otherwise, it's very beneficial to get the wheels at, or near the correct width before attempting to make further adjustments.

Find an old plow manual (for a 3-point plow) Typically, Ford, Massey Ferguson, Deere, IH, ect, will give the crash course in setting the tractor for a plow. The measurements Kenny gave are +/- an inch or so to every recommended width I've ever seen. You can live with +/- 1" with slight adjustments to where the plows drawbar is positioned.

IN some cases, fixed track width makes it impossible to implement this adjustment. At that point, you're limited to adjusting the plow. Like with so many compromise situations, you do the best you can do and go on with life.
 
   / Plow fitment problem #25  
No problem.
Got the extension bracket welded to the plow this AM.

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I'll get the rust off later when I'm able to do some plowing.


Flusher, I've seen a few people attempt what you've done. In a couple cases, the hitch geometry was disrupted so the plow tended to raise and lower unequally front to rear as slight depth changes were made. It took extending the top link pivot point forward an equal distance as the lower mounting point change to get the desired results. May not be the case, but if you have issues with the rear of the plow floating up or down in relation to the front, take a look at that.
 
   / Plow fitment problem #26  
Flusher, I've seen a few people attempt what you've done. In a couple cases, the hitch geometry was disrupted so the plow tended to raise and lower unequally front to rear as slight depth changes were made. It took extending the top link pivot point forward an equal distance as the lower mounting point change to get the desired results. May not be the case, but if you have issues with the rear of the plow floating up or down in relation to the front, take a look at that.


FWJ: thanks for the heads up. Looking at the last photo I posted, I see what you mean. I may have to fiddle with the adjustments once I get the plow into the ground.
 
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Thanks FWJ, I understand what your talking about when it comes to shifting the plow very far off center, had not giving it a thought till you mentioned it. So I'll set her behind the tractor and see what I need to do first.
 
   / Plow fitment problem #28  
You set the TRACTOR to the plow and NOT vice versa. Wheel track width is VERY critical. That'll put the tire in the correct spot when the plow is correctly centered on it's "line of draft" behind the tractor. Many folks try to shift the plow left or right to align the right side of cut with the sidewall of the tire. What that does is put your plow to one side (usually too far to the left) causing unequal pull on one side. (tends to make the tractor steer to one side in a hard pull.....that also "eats" horsepower)

That sounds good. How does it work for say a McCormick Deering WD9 which was one of the very popular Plough pullers on the prairies. :D
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Some of the new larger plows don't even have a wheel near the furrow!:D
 

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   / Plow fitment problem #29  
That sounds good. How does it work for say a McCormick Deering WD9 which was one of the very popular Plough pullers on the prairies. :D
Picture attached.

Some of the new larger plows don't even have a wheel near the furrow!:D

Never heard of one of those old "standard tread" tractors that would use a 3-point plow, so that sorta doesn't fit in this thread.

Kinda unlikely the OP would be using a giant on-land plow behind a tractor with a CAT 1 3-point hitch, don't you think? .

But you already knew that. ;)
 
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Gota cover all the bases you know and differentiate between them so's dummy's like me don't get confused and try and move the unmovable wheel eh.:D
 
 

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