PO'd at police

[Bedlam]

:laughing::laughing: Good one Dave. SO TRUE, If you dont like strip bars dont go inside lol
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[two_bit_score]

No we disagree. Officer do not always have discretion. I listed why this might be the case. Also I mentioned why the officer might have chosen to have written a citation instead of a warning. The latter is within his discretion but there are danged good reasons for the officer to just right the citation.

Calling the officer in question "chicken shid" is just low class.

Later,
Dan

Well, we do disagree.

Actually, in the particular post you qoute from I didn't say the officer in question was 'chicken shid'. Although he may have been.

The officer was very inexperienced in my opinion or he was 'chickin shid' in this case. Maybe he thought he had to make some 'chicken shid' supervisor happy. Maybe he just didn't believe the OP about the insurance being in force.

There are a lot of 'chicken shid' tickets written everyday. Probably more than legit tickets.

If you feel that an officer doesn't ALWAYS have discretion on writing a ticket that is your personal opinion but it's incorrect.

And ANY officer that feels he ALWAYS must write a citation and can never write a warning ticket or even give a verbal warning is "chicken shid". Because he is going to make some stops that in good judgement require the exercise of his professional discretion and if he can't properly apply that discretion, really, not only is he 'chicken shid' he's probably got deeper seated problems that should eleminate him from being in law enforcement.

 

[charlz]

Seems pretty clear cut to me: you got caught, time to pay up. Show your proof of insurance, pay your seat belt fine and go about your business. Not worth getting PO'd over and going in front of the judge and complaining isn't going to do anything.



I had my own fun adventure one time. CA had just changed the state law that the default speed limit was 65 and not 55, any piece of freeway not signed was 65mph. I jump on the freeway early in the morning, not really paying attention just going with the flow and get pulled over for 75 in a 55. Don't really think about it until later, hey isn't that section 65 now? Do some research, yep, that section is not signed (I actually got on the freeway at the beginning of it and no signs for several miles) should be 65. Between my citation date and my court date I had moved from CA to NV. I decided to appear in court versus taking care of it by mail to see if I can get the ticket reduced. I have print outs of the new CA vehicle codes from the Internet.

I sit around for a while until it is my turn, you get to make a statement (excuse) if you wish and then enter a plea. Guilty you pay up, not guilty you get a court date. I bring up the whole law change thing and ask for a reduction. The Judge isn't up to speed on the new laws and doesn't have a copy of the new codes and is using an old, well thumbed, paper book version of the law. Says the law is 55, I say no, the law is 65 as of a week or more before my citation. We go back and forth with him trying to cite different vehicle codes that say I viloated a 55mph speed limit. I shoot him down on a few as either being changed or not relavent. I make it clear more than once that I am looking for a simple reduction. This is making him PO'ed.

Being SoCal there a more than a couple non-English speakers in the courtroom so their translator is trying to tell them what is going on. Talking in his court room just makes the Judge more PO'ed. He is highly suspicious of my Internet printouts (mid-90's)(should have bought the book) and declines to reduce my ticket. He sites that he is siding with the officer, if he said 55 then it's 55. I plead guilty with the request that since I no longer live in state can I take traffic school by mail? Yes.

So, I still pay the fine, pay an extra little fee to take traffic school to keep the infraction off my record. I get the traffic school booklet AND the test sheet together in the mail. Naturally I read the booklet and don't refer back to it while taking my 'test'

Two weeks later I am back in LA following the same route onto the same freeway and there are 65mph signs right at the beginning of the freeway. :laughing:

Moral of my story? It is all rigged against you. The officer on the side of the road _IS_ judging you, they default to his judgement if there are any questions.

They still get your money, you get to keep it off your record, everybody is happy(?).:confused2:

 

[dave1949]

:laughing::laughing: Good one Dave. SO TRUE, If you dont like strip bars dont go inside lol
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Well, yeah, I was thinking along those lines. Sort of rubs me wrong when someone feels they have to classify as 'trash' people having a discussion.

I don't see much in the way of 'cop hating' in this thread. I do see folks venting a bit about the traffic enforcement system the cop are the everyday face of.

All the posters here offer any help they can when someone has a tractor/house/barn/animal/family/crop/etc. issue. We also shoot the breeze a fair amount
Dave.

 

[two_bit_score]

charlz, you make a good point with the story. The 'system' is completely against the citizen who doesn't want to just 'pay up' when told to do so.

 

[MossRoad]

Watch the language and acronyms in the posts, folks.

 

[two_bit_score]

Watch the language and acronyms in the posts, folks.

Point well taken. "Feather legged" will be used in the future, if necessary.

 

[MossRoad]

charlz, you make a good point with the story. The 'system' is completely against the citizen who doesn't want to just 'pay up' when told to do so.

That's because most people that are guilty do not want to admit it. They want to whine and moan to everyone that will listen and the people that work in the system probably get tired of hearing it day in and day out.

The original poster was ticketed properly for the seat belt and was given the opportunity to get the proof of insurance ticket canceled. Was the cop supposed to wait for him by the side of the road to go home and get the proof of insurance? Perhaps the cop should have followed him to his house? I don't think so. And what is so hard about opening your mail and putting the insurance card in your glove box twice a year? You forget, you get a ticket with the chance to overturn it if you really did just forget it. Nothing unfair about that and certainly no reason to be mad at the police. He should be mad at himself if anything; more like embarrassed. :confused2:

 

[MossRoad]

Point well taken. "Feather legged" will be used in the future, if necessary.

"You feather legged..." just doesn't sound too mean, does it? :laughing:

 

[two_bit_score]

In "certain circles" it is understood to have the same meaning though............