Polar Vortex Preparations

[ovrszd]

C'mon man, the rest of us were just trying to feel good about him doing a good deed and helping others in this cold, unforgiving modern life we all share.

Surely some of those parents are irresponsible with their personal choices, but it's not a majority of them. 75% smoke? no way. Some people just aren't very intelligent, or given much resources, and expecting them to be able to shrewdly navigate life, get a great job and save lots of money is unrealistic. Other people just get dealt a bad hand in life, and accidents happen. Addictions are a real problem too. Have some compassion.

MossRoad, kudos to you and your wife. Don't feel at all bad about eating out after packing the lunches, you deserve it, and hey, some of their parents probably work at that restaurant, which needs the business.

I was clear to the bottom of your second paragraph becore I realized you might not be joking. Still not positive though...

Having a great job and saving lots of money isn't what we are talking about. We're talking about the logical efficiency of breeding humans. A handout won't fix that. It will create an addiction.

It's sad that the kids pay the price in their parent's vagrant ignorance of their responsibility. We created that.

This Country has an excellent support network in place. This includes Food Banks. Now if we could just create an equal system to hold the parents accountable.

 

[MossRoad]

And 99% of those parents have an expensive cell phone. 75% of those parents spend their food money on pop and frozen pizzas. 75% smoke. 50% don't have a steady job. 25% drive a car beyond their means.

I applaud your involvement. But it's not the solution.

OK while we figure out a solution, we'll not let the kids starve due to the sins of their parents.

Cell phones are cheap. They are cheaper than the land lines that the government was paying for before cell phones were invented. Therefore, it's a better use of taxpayer dollars to give out cell phones VS land lines.

There aren't many grocery stores in bad neighborhoods. The only place to get food is convenience stores at gas stations.

75% of people living below the poverty level don't smoke. 25% do.

The unemployment rate in this county is 3.3%. The work is steady. The pay is low.

Most of the cars I see at the food bank are in pretty bad shape.

 

[ovrszd]

OK while we figure out a solution, we'll not let the kids starve due to the sins of their parents.

Cell phones are cheap. They are cheaper than the land lines that the government was paying for before cell phones were invented. Therefore, it's a better use of taxpayer dollars to give out cell phones VS land lines.

There aren't many grocery stores in bad neighborhoods. The only place to get food is convenience stores at gas stations.

75% of people living below the poverty level don't smoke. 25% do.

The unemployment rate in this county is 3.3%. The work is steady. The pay is low.

Most of the cars I see at the food bank are in pretty bad shape.

Then by all means we should continue down this slope.

 

[LD48750]

OK while we figure out a solution, we'll not let the kids starve due to the sins of their parents.

Cell phones are cheap. They are cheaper than the land lines that the government was paying for before cell phones were invented. Therefore, it's a better use of taxpayer dollars to give out cell phones VS land lines.

There aren't many grocery stores in bad neighborhoods. The only place to get food is convenience stores at gas stations.

75% of people living below the poverty level don't smoke. 25% do.

The unemployment rate in this county is 3.3%. The work is steady. The pay is low.

Most of the cars I see at the food bank are in pretty bad shape.

On the cellphone issue... I don't call $1200 cheap.
In a year, they need the *NEW* one. Thats $100/Mo BEFORE service charges & taxes.
My land line NEVER cost me that much.

 

[TheMan419]

So, was it as cold as they forecast?

How accurate were local forecasts?

Ours was pretty close. The debate was if we would break the 1890 record of -22F. We did not, we only got to -20, so I guess they were off by 11%, so maybe not so accurate?

 

[AllDodge]

- If they don't send them to school, they won't eat today.
- If they do send them to school in the cold weather, they'll get frostbite waiting for the bus.

Had to go up to Louisville yesterday and came back today. Been hearing the school principle on the local radio stations around hear letting folks know if they need food to contact the school in a PM on FB or phone call. No names will be record and the teachers will bring the food out no questions asked

 

[Motorboatin]

On the cellphone issue... I don't call $1200 cheap.
In a year, they need the *NEW* one. Thats $100/Mo BEFORE service charges & taxes.
My land line NEVER cost me that much.

Ask a liberal to do the math

 

[MossRoad]

Ours was pretty close. The debate was if we would break the 1890 record of -22F. We did not, we only got to -20, so I guess they were off by 11%, so maybe not so accurate?

Yep, we missed the all-time low by 2 degrees, but we smashed the record low for this day in history. Past was -11F, so we beat that by 9.

I guess we should be happy with that! :laughing:

 

[MossRoad]

Ask a liberal to do the math

What's that supposed to mean?

 

[TheMan419]

On the cellphone issue... I don't call $1200 cheap.
In a year, they need the *NEW* one. Thats $100/Mo BEFORE service charges & taxes.
My land line NEVER cost me that much.

We pay $35/mo all in for my wife痴 cell plan. Includes more data than she ever uses. Not sure where $100/mo comes in....

 

[LD48750]

We pay $35/mo all in for my wifeç—´ cell plan. Includes more data than she ever uses. Not sure where $100/mo comes in....

What did the phone cost you & how much are the taxes & fees?
What does yours cost?

 

[bigtiller]

Why are some of you cruising the net looking for an argument?

Lets stick to the topic provided by the OP..... Polar Vortex Preparations

 

[MossRoad]

Sounds good. It's -3F here.

 

[kenmac]

I can't remember it ever being that cold here in my state. It may have been, I just don't remember it.
I can't even imagine that cold !

 

[truckdiagnostics]

It was cold this morning.

 

[MossRoad]

So we had something like -45F windchill last night. It's supposed to be 52 on Monday. It'll feel like a 97 degree temperature swing....

 

[MossRoad]

I went ice fishing today. I figured with the cold the past 7 days, the ice would have firmed up. However, there was about 1/2" of snow, a thin crust of maybe 3/8" ice, two inches of slush and only 2" of mediocre ice. Seems the snow insulated the ice. The water is just above 32 and is melting the ice from underneath and the snow is holding that slightly above 32 temp in like a blanket.

If I stopped pulling my sled and let it sit for more than a few minutes, the water would squish up through the snow and freeze the slush to the bottom of the sled that was in -6F air temp. Then I couldn't pull the sled. I had to turn it over and knock the ice off the bottom.

 

[MossRoad]

There were also multiple drain holes where the slush water was running across the firm ice and draining back into the lake. Some were visible and others were hidden under the snow. You just don't ever want to assume any ice is safe, ever.

 

[Jstpssng]

^^^^
The important thing though; did you catch anything? I've seen times when drilling a hole let the water on top go rushing through, just flushing the toilet. I never had much luck fishing when it was like that though.

 

[cqaigy2]

Currently 46F here, had to scrape the windows on the car this morning. I do not in anyway, envy the temps you all are seeing.