Pole barn ceiling advice

   / Pole barn ceiling advice #1  

wguttrid

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Hi guys, have an older type shed pole barn, with 2' centers for rafters and looking at putting up ceiling to help with winter heating. The size I am looking at is an area of about 25' x 60'.

Was thinking either Aspenite (OSB) or tin metal (standard 26 or 29g barn metal siding).

Leaning towards the metal siding, as the bigger pieces should make the work go a bit quicker. Plan on insulating and attaching vapor barrier.

Going to run the sheets parallel to the rafters, or sheet length way against the rafters. Was thinking to order 3' wide by 16' length, but not sure what gauge I should go with.

Will 29g suffice?

Any other tips or recommendations.

Thanks for the help guys.
 
   / Pole barn ceiling advice #2  
W,

I wouldn't have though sheet metal had the strength to go parallel to rafters. I'd worry about sag?
 
   / Pole barn ceiling advice #3  
I would use OSB personally. It would add strength to the structure and won't sag. Plus I think it would look better.
 
   / Pole barn ceiling advice #5  
OSB can be heavy for the thickness. In my house when I put in a sub ceiling I used 1/4" plywood. I am still living in the house after 20 years . I strapped then finished with 1/2 " drywall.
So for a barn I might suggest 3/8" plywood.
Craig Clayton
 
   / Pole barn ceiling advice #6  
Go with the metal. That metal can span trusses 8 feet on center without sagging and without running purlins -- it can screw right to the existing trusses.
 
   / Pole barn ceiling advice #7  
Go with the metal. That metal can span trusses 8 feet on center without sagging and without running purlins -- it can screw right to the existing trusses.

29ga spanning 8' without purlins?????? Says who????

I personally would not want to do it. 4' MAX for purlin spacing.

And if you choose metal, DONT run parallel to the rafters. Run perpindicular.

But I also vote for osb. 7/16 is what I used because it was the cheapest. like $4.76 for a 4x8 sheet. But prices fluctuate on them. But @ 4.76 that is about $0.15 per sq ft. Metal is about $2.50 or so per foot. That is over $0.83 per sq ft.

Actually mine was a floor for upstairs. Put the osb on the bottom and then blown in insulation. and then the osb on the top. If you have access once the ceiling is on, blown in is a little cheaper. If not, use rolls then cover with the OSB.
 
   / Pole barn ceiling advice #8  
I've run 29ga metal over 6' with no sag at all... 8' should be no problem also. As mentioned , run it perpendicular to rafters. This makes a very nice ceiling in a barn/shop. Metal is lighter than osb, and you can get it with a nice painted finish for around $.70/sq. ft.
 
   / Pole barn ceiling advice #9  
I've run 29ga metal over 6' with no sag at all... 8' should be no problem also. As mentioned , run it perpendicular to rafters. This makes a very nice ceiling in a barn/shop. Metal is lighter than osb, and you can get it with a nice painted finish for around $.70/sq. ft.

If cost is a factor and until OSB goes over 22.40 per sheet, it is still the cheaper way to go. And a 5gal bucket of white paint is cheap and will go a long way.
 
   / Pole barn ceiling advice #10  
I used the 29 gauge white painted metal for my ceiling and blown in fiberglass insulation, R-44. Also used 6 inch bats in the sides and the same white metal. Looks fantastic, cleans easy, will never have to paint it, and it makes maximum use of any light. I would not even consider anything else.
 
   / Pole barn ceiling advice #11  
I used 29 guage in 26' sheets. Joists are 40" OC & metal is perpendicular. I have 4" rigid foam on top. MikeD74T
 
   / Pole barn ceiling advice #12  
I would use OSB personally. It would add strength to the structure and won't sag. Plus I think it would look better.

A decent 29 ga will have a similar strength as a 7/16 OSB.

29ga spanning 8' without purlins?????? Says who????

I personally would not want to do it. 4' MAX for purlin spacing.

ME!

We do it all the time. All of the name brand buildings that I have seen do it as well. Works very well.
 
   / Pole barn ceiling advice #13  
A decent 29 ga will have a similar strength as a 7/16 OSB.



ME!

We do it all the time. All of the name brand buildings that I have seen do it as well. Works very well.

I know I wouldn't want to be up on a roof walking around with 29ga spanning 8'.

Just to be clear, are we talking about the same siding??? I know some of the stuff you see on commercial buildings has MUCH larger ribs, thus allowing it to span further. I am taling about your everyday run-of-the-mill ploe barn siding. And the commercial style also usually comes in thicker guages.
 
   / Pole barn ceiling advice #14  
I know I wouldn't want to be up on a roof walking around with 29ga spanning 8'.

Just to be clear, are we talking about the same siding??? I know some of the stuff you see on commercial buildings has MUCH larger ribs, thus allowing it to span further. I am taling about your everyday run-of-the-mill ploe barn siding. And the commercial style also usually comes in thicker guages.

We are talking about ceiling use not the roof. And no you can't walk on it.

Yes, just the standard 29 ga "barn tin".
 
   / Pole barn ceiling advice #15  
We are talking about ceiling use not the roof. And no you can't walk on it.

Yes, just the standard 29 ga "barn tin".

Well now that makes a lot more sense. Just as long as you dont have to walk on it while insulating, it would be alright.
 
   / Pole barn ceiling advice #16  
Well now that makes a lot more sense. Just as long as you dont have to walk on it while insulating, it would be alright.

We just take a 10' plank or two to walk on.
 
   / Pole barn ceiling advice #17  
I put white metal in my shop on the ceiling and walls in '94. Still looks like new today, other than some dust. At that time, metal was the best buy.

I am also having it put in my new shop. Back then it was called "cover sheet". The protective sheets they put on top, to prevent your siding from getting scratched during shipping.

Today they call it "liner panel". I'm thinking it is running me $1.39 per sq. ft. But knowing it will be a one time deal,and no maintenance, worth it to me.

Also using this insulation Insulation for Less : Prodex : Reflective Insulation : Pole Barn Insulation : Metal Building Insulation : Bubble Insulation About 1/4" thick, double foil faced. I will be getting the 4' wide rolls, and using button fasteners to hold it just enough, until metal is fastened over top. I was told it had an insulation value of 15. something.., and it does..., but only under a roof, and in reflective purposes.. On walls, and ceiling 5. something..

Still.., should do as well, if not better than the 1 1/2" styrofoam I have in my old shop ceiling, and cut to fit between wall purlins. The waste oil furnace uses approx. 450 gallons of used oil per year, to keep the shop a comfy 65コ.
 

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