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Yes indeed well informative :thumbsup:
It must be nice to build anything you want, anyway you want, and not need a building permit and have it inspected.
What brought this on. I didn't see anything about permits in the ops question.
Because I am jealous. There are a lot of threads on here where people cook up all kinds of different ideas on building all types of buildings, using all kinds of different materials, old abandoned this, re-use that, put this together with that. I think it's great, and I think all of them are good ideas and would hold up well, especially with everyone pitching in with their own ideas about how to do it.
But that doesn't matter. In my area, the building inspectors only know what they know. That is the standard way to build a pole barn or other structure, and the standard materials that could be used and the distances and spans that can be utilized with the standard material. If you have a "bought" metal building that is commonly sold by a company they recognize, they usually will ok that also.
Any thing cobbled together with different non-standard bits and pieces they are not going to pass, unless they are having a very good day and feel generous. They do not believe in "eyeballing" a structure and signing off that it's safe for snow loads and wind loads, and whatever you are going to use it for. If it had a engineers stamp on it, then that's a different story and it will pass with flying colors.
I just couldn't stand it anymore, I had to say something after reading all these different building threads. I may have said something in one of the others also. I won't say anymore about it, you know we all have to get things off our chest once in awhile. From the responses I am getting it seems most jurisdictions are pretty lax about this stuff and it doesn't apply.
At least I don't live in the town I am next to with their historical district. Those people can't even paint their house the color they want to.
Because I am jealous. There are a lot of threads on here where people cook up all kinds of different ideas on building all types of buildings, using all kinds of different materials, old abandoned this, re-use that, put this together with that. I think it's great, and I think all of them are good ideas and would hold up well, especially with everyone pitching in with their own ideas about how to do it.
But that doesn't matter. In my area, the building inspectors only know what they know. That is the standard way to build a pole barn or other structure, and the standard materials that could be used and the distances and spans that can be utilized with the standard material. If you have a "bought" metal building that is commonly sold by a company they recognize, they usually will ok that also.
Any thing cobbled together with different non-standard bits and pieces they are not going to pass, unless they are having a very good day and feel generous. They do not believe in "eyeballing" a structure and signing off that it's safe for snow loads and wind loads, and whatever you are going to use it for. If it had a engineers stamp on it, then that's a different story and it will pass with flying colors.
I just couldn't stand it anymore, I had to say something after reading all these different building threads. I may have said something in one of the others also. I won't say anymore about it, you know we all have to get things off our chest once in awhile. From the responses I am getting it seems most jurisdictions are pretty lax about this stuff and it doesn't apply.
At least I don't live in the town I am next to with their historical district. Those people can't even paint their house the color they want to.
franklin2,
I feel your pain almost daily- Governments that inspect are required to choose the acceptable building code they are going to use as the 'minimum standard rules to apply' . Most inspectors can and will interpret the codes using good common sense. They must sign off as 'Passed' meaning the project meets the minimum standards for whatever version of said codes adopted by government. If a lawsuit is brought, it must be proved the work was passed without meeting the min. standard for that time period. A field inspector can be held liable as well as the government.
Soooo-
Inspectors will only pass work that meets those minimum standards- UNLESS stamped engineering for the project is submitted as the standard to which said project will be constructed. This relieves the governing body and inspector from any liability from failure.
In conclusion-
I can get anything approved if a registered engineer will put their stamp on a letter, drawing, picture, etc. (for a fee!). It is all about CYA, revenue generation, protecting residents from improper construction practices. (pretty much in that order as well)
If a structure fails in a unpermitted area or is not permitted when it should have been causing injury to property or persons, the owner/ builder or both can be held liable for damages.
Now- lets get back to getting a roof over my equipment so it won't weather and rust!! :thumbsup: