POLL: Should Teachers Be Armed with Guns?

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   / POLL: Should Teachers Be Armed with Guns? #121  
I guess that is just a personal comfort issue.. and will be different with everybody. I'd take the 'gruff' business owner toting a weapon vs the jiffy store parking lot with a vagrant or loiterer or two ANY day.

Soundguy

riptides said:
And to answer another Soundguy question, no I feel intimidated when I frequent gun shops whose owner I do not know. As a matter of fact, the last time I had to stop by a place I had never been to before, looking for ammo, I got a distinct attitude, and the weapon did not help.

-Mike Z.
 
   / POLL: Should Teachers Be Armed with Guns? #122  
Soundguy said:
I guess that is just a personal comfort issue.. and will be different with everybody. I'd take the 'gruff' business owner toting a weapon vs the jiffy store parking lot with a vagrant or loiterer or two ANY day.

Soundguy

Agree... time, place, person and circumstance.

Now about that guy that wants everyone packing..... :)

He offers equalization in hardware toting, but all hardware is not equal.

Hmmm.... need to think about that.

Enjoy.
 
   / POLL: Should Teachers Be Armed with Guns? #123  
I got no problem with everyone packing (grin).. I figure if .50AE won't be protection.. nothing will... Now if i could just find a good CC holster for that thing.. hard to do with 10.5" barrell.. (grin)

Soundguy
 
   / POLL: Should Teachers Be Armed with Guns? #124  
I'm waiting for somebody here to challenge somebody else to a duel...

"I agree with Thingie. If I don't feel safe some places, I tend to avoid them. "

So do I...
But sometimes trouble comes to you (VA Tech)
 
   / POLL: Should Teachers Be Armed with Guns? #126  
MossRoad said:
O.K. I'll jump back in here on that one...

Are you nuts, man? :eek:

I feel better now. Back out. :p


Probably, but think about it, whose gonna start trouble when everybody is armed? No road rage, no flipping the bird etc. An armed society is a polite society.
 
   / POLL: Should Teachers Be Armed with Guns? #128  
RedRocker said:
Probably, but think about it, whose gonna start trouble when everybody is armed? No road rage, no flipping the bird etc. An armed society is a polite society.

Baloney. Have you checked the road rage death rate in Houston recently. They have people taking shots at each other quite frequently with numerous fatalities per year. The idea that knowing someone is likely armed will deter bad behavior of any sort just does not fit with observed outcomes. In a recent poll published yesterday I think Boston (my hometown) was third worst in the country with regard to poor road manners and episodes of road rage. We had no deaths by firearms (or otherwise) however and haven't for years. I think Houston was about 16th on the list of bad manners but they have a chronic problem with road rage firearm incidents and deaths. Guns don't make you safer folks.
 
   / POLL: Should Teachers Be Armed with Guns? #129  
Bob_Skurka said:
Ed, you are simply wrong on this one.

We are going to have to agree to disagree on the 2nd amendment point but I will side with Chief Justice Warren Burger any day against the new found love of guns in the current administration's Justice Dept.

What I really was hoping some of you would respond to but no one has were my points regarding the likelihood of harm coming from allowing guns in schools. Is that because you agree with me?:rolleyes: So you don't need to check back 20 posts or so, here were my points (other than 2nd amendment)

IslandTractor said:
My first concern with this "packing teachers" discussion is that there is a rush to institute a "solution" that may well end up causing more deaths not less. Not many of the posts have talked about the potential harm that could be done by bringing weapons into schools. I tried to point out that with millions of children and tens of thousands of teachers there would certainly be situations, difficult to prevent, where kids got a hold of the teachers weapon. Not good. Where do teachers keep their guns? In their purse? In the drawer? Where does the coach put his gun when he is in the shower? If they are to respond immediately to an invasion presumably the guns need to be loaded and pretty easily accessible. When the teacher is in the back of the class what prevents the class clown or bully or mentally unstable kid from running up to the desk and taking the gun? What happens then? Does the teacher next door come to the rescue and have a shoot out with the kid? That incident WILL occur if guns are in schools, it is just a matter of time.

Here is another example of what could (will) easily go wrong. A distraught father/mother involved in a custody battle barges into the classroom to get their own child. Maybe the teacher doesn't recognize them. Maybe the news the night before included a reminder about Columbine or VTech, maybe the teacher is just frightened...maybe the teacher pulls the gun and shoots. Arm enough teachers and it will happen. Just wait.

My point is simply that even very very low frequency events, things that you can barely imagine, will in fact happen if there are sufficient opportunities. Putting thousands of guns into schools will provide those opportunities. Think statistically not emotionally.

So, to summarize my own first response to this idea of arming teachers, I think it is emotional, not data driven, not well thought out and without much if any consideration of potential harm that could follow. In my field we try to do good but we alway worry about doing harm in the process. Not many of you are seriously addressing that potential harm issue. Certainly filling out some forms and getting half baked training classes will not do it. As I mentioned in my first post, I don't care if you want a gun in your home if you don't think the police are helpful or you live in a rural area but I don't want guns carried by private citizens in areas where my family is likely to be.
 
   / POLL: Should Teachers Be Armed with Guns? #130  
old wise saying

A liberal is really a conservative, that hasnt been mugged yet !:eek:



If you dont trust others with guns , theres always Washington DC.
 
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