posted signs

[forgeblast]

Here when i post signs i use a stapler, Once a logger sees you using nails of any kind in posting signs, your timber value goes down. A nail can wreck some expesive mill blades.
Foresters will tell you staple.
That being said when i have metal signs i screw them onto pressure treated fence posts or bolt them through some t fencing.
It is a joke here that you can tell when new people move in with the amount of signs that they put up...i am guilty of that myself, but then again. I wanted to let people who once had permisson to hunt my property that it is under new "managment". I actually met my neighbor putting up signs, since he heard the property was sold he was out putting up signs and i went out to put some up. Been friends since that day.

 

[ToadHill]

I mark my lines with Blue paint. Leaves turn red, yellow, orange, and Brown in the fall but I haven't seen any that turn Blue. Makes it hard for people to mistake my paint for fall leaves.

 

[LBrown59]

Since Maine doesn't like posted land, I believe we have to put up signs every 50' if we want to post.
Dave.

Why don't they like posted land ? ? ? ? ?

 

[dave1949]

Why don't they like posted land ? ? ? ? ?

Two reasons; tradition and state and business (hunting, fishing, snowmobiles) revenue.

Without private landowner's willing to provide public access, those activities are hard to sell. Snowmobilers pump millions into the northern Maine economy in a decent sledding winter. Fishing and hunting licenses fund a large percentage of the Fish&Game dept. operations.

By state law, the public has riparian access rights to rivers and streams, large ponds and lakes. If those are surrounded by posted land, it becomes a moot point.

Dave.

 

[MikeD74T]

Two reasons; tradition and state and business (hunting, fishing, snowmobiles) revenue.

Without private landowner's willing to provide public access, those activities are hard to sell. Snowmobilers pump millions into the northern Maine economy in a decent sledding winter. Fishing and hunting licenses fund a large percentage of the Fish&Game dept. operations.

By state law, the public has riparian access rights to rivers and streams, large ponds and lakes. If those are surrounded by posted land, it becomes a moot point.

Dave.

New Hampshire has a similar attitude. By law, any unposted land is accessible for many non-motorized uses (hiking, snowshoeing, x-country skiing, hunting, fishing). The landowner has the option of refusing access without posting or requiring verbal/written permission, but for forest & farm land under a reduced tax assessment (called 'current use") there is an additional 20% assessment reduction for the landowner agreeing not to post against the otherwise allowed uses for at least two years. ATV access is a hard sell, snowmobiles less because they don't tear up the land but noise is closing some lands. MikeD74T

 

[studor]

Here a red circle on a white background means no trespassing. I use red painted can lids on plastic corrigated material to make signs that last a long time. I have two other no tresspassing signs -- one says simply "You are in Range" and the other says "Trespassers will be Composted" I too have had some idiots walk onto my property -- once one even walked under my treestand with me in it!

 

[dave1949]

New Hampshire has a similar attitude. By law, any unposted land is accessible for many non-motorized uses (hiking, snowshoeing, x-country skiing, hunting, fishing). The landowner has the option of refusing access without posting or requiring verbal/written permission, but for forest & farm land under a reduced tax assessment (called 'current use") there is an additional 20% assessment reduction for the landowner agreeing not to post against the otherwise allowed uses for at least two years. ATV access is a hard sell, snowmobiles less because they don't tear up the land but noise is closing some lands. MikeD74T

The laws are similar here - no 20% reduction for open access unfortunately. Couple years ago, they passed a law for ATVs. You are supposed to be carring written landowner permision with you when riding an ATV on private land. Now they are arguing over whether or not a Warden can stop anyone riding an ATV on private land without cause - to see if they have the permission required.

I have visited an acquaintance in Holderness, NH in winter. They have a house on an arm of Squam Lake. In summer, there are no power boats allowed there. In winter, the center of the water way is a major sled trail. Now that makes a lot of sense. On a weekend it is just one sled after the other and they like to open them on the lake straightaway.

Always a few people with no common sense when it comes to making noise, they ruin it for others.
Dave.

 

[MikeD74T]

The laws are similar here - no 20% reduction for open access unfortunately. Couple years ago, they passed a law for ATVs. You are supposed to be carring written landowner permision with you when riding an ATV on private land. Now they are arguing over whether or not a Warden can stop anyone riding an ATV on private land without cause - to see if they have the permission required.

I have visited an acquaintance in Holderness, NH in winter. They have a house on an arm of Squam Lake. In summer, there are no power boats allowed there. In winter, the center of the water way is a major sled trail. Now that makes a lot of sense. On a weekend it is just one sled after the other and they like to open them on the lake straightaway.

Always a few people with no common sense when it comes to making noise, they ruin it for others.
Dave.

Dave, I've attended two ATV/snowmobile safety courses with grandsons so they can ride off my property without an adult, which is within the laws. The courses are presented by volunteers with a cameo F&G officer appearance. At each I asked the officer what authority the state has over my property that I must provide a written document to an invited guest. Both confessed that they would be unlikely to stop anyone for proof of written permission on private property without a landowner complaint. In NH there is an exemption for individual permission where clubs have permission but it still has to be written permission. I have a neighbor that owns hundreds of acres but will give only verbal permission & is willing to challange the State if provoked. It's impossible to get in or out of town on the snowmobile trails without crossing their property. Doubt they'll be provoked.

As for speeding on the lake, in NH trails discontinue & resume at waters edge (except for a couple of local ordinances). Speed limits apply on the trails so many go fast on the lakes only. Snowmobile manufacturers are their own worst enemies for making 100 mph machines for trails with a 45 MPH speed limit & selling them to idiots. Darwin collected a few more this year, I'm sure Maine had fatalities as well. NH is also starting to clamp down on aftermarket loud exhaust systems on the trails. MikeD74T

 

[Skyco]

Also check your state laws on trespassing. In NC we have to have a sign with a minimum size, a contact name and the signs have to be posted at a certain distance from each other. I think it is 600 feet.

I can't find anything in NC law about the name being required on No Trespassing signs...
If you know of something to that effect please let us know as I have my NC land posted without the name...

From the NC General Statutes-

14-159.7. Regulations as to posting of property.
The notices, signs or posters described in G.S. 14-159.6 shall measure not less than 120
square inches and shall be conspicuously posted on private lands not more than 200 yards apart
close to and along the boundaries. At least one such notice, sign, or poster shall be posted on
each side of such land, and one at each corner thereof, provided that said corner can be
reasonably ascertained. For the purpose of prohibiting fishing, or the taking of fish by any
means, in any stream, lake, or pond, it shall only be necessary that the signs, notices, or posters
be posted along the stream or shoreline of a pond or lake at intervals of not more than 200
yards apart. (1949, c. 887, s. 2; 1953, c. 1226; 1965, c. 923; 1975, c. 280, ss. 2, 3; 1979, c. 830,
s. 11.)

 

[dcyrilc]

Around here, if a property is fenced and gated, it is considered to be posted even if there are no signs. I found that out from my neighbor who is a deputy county sheriff.