Power-loss 48 BH

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AuCivil

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JD4710
I have a 4710 with ~70 hrs. Dug a hole for my daughter to play in - seemed to works fine. Went back several hours later to fill the hole and noticed that the hoe seemed to have lost power. Before, the hoe would pick the back of the tractor off the ground, now it tries but no-go.

Any suggestions?
 
/ Power-loss 48 BH #2  
First blush...

Check fluid level, loader flat on ground and hoe folded for transport, on a level surface.

Hope you get er goin'!!
 
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Fluid level is okay.

Thanks for the suggestion!
 
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Come-on guys, 80 plus hits and only 1 suggestion /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif Either I'm the first to have this problem or the problem is in my head /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif I know the hoe could move the tractor around before, did it when I was learning, because I was thinking it was a good thing I opted for the heavier 4710. Tell me I'm not crazy!
 
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How would I check the valve /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif
 
/ Power-loss 48 BH #7  
<font color="blue">How would I check the valve </font>

Since it is new, I would let the dealer check it out. It should be a warranty repair.

I assume you did not close the rockshaft rate of drop control. Check all the hydraulic controls on the tractor to make sure they are all centered. My stabilizer controls sometimes stick and cause the BH to loose power. They put very cheap hoses on my Deere BH so make sure you do not have a leaking hose. Half of mine developed leaks early on. Rather that let the dealer replace them with more cheap hoses I had a hydraulic shop make me up some good hoses. I also got better quality hose protectors from the hydraulic shop. I prefered to spend the money than have the BH break down in the middle of a job.
 
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I have also noticed a "gurgle" sound at times when operating the BH. Could this be a clue to the problem (although it seemed to work normally before with sound).

Also, will your BH pick the back tires of your tractor off the ground?
 
/ Power-loss 48 BH #9  
Air in the system somewhere? Are you running at the same engine rpm?

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/ Power-loss 48 BH #10  
I don't know if the rockshaft drop control plays into it but I had a kid-induced problem last year. Took my hoe off, put the tph arms back on but couldn't get the thing to drop. I was sure I did something to ruin my tractor but it turns out the kids were playing on it and turned the drop knob all the way in /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
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Yes running at the same RPM.
 
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The gurgle sound may be air in the system. To remove the air you need to cycle all the cylinders from stop to stop. Your hydraulic fluid level could also be low but I believe you said it wasn't. I think air in the system would just make the operation jerky though. The sound you hear may also just be the hydraulic fluid rushing through a stuck relief valve. Since the unit is pretty new it is quite possible that a piece of trash got lodged in a relief valve causing it to leak. If you still have the problem after you cycle the cylinders to remove any trapped air, I would just let have the dealer check it out.

The BH should easily lift the rear of the tractor. You could pick it up and move it side to side but the JD says not to do it (might bend a cylinder rod). About the only reason it would not lift the rear of the tractor is low hydraulic pressure and that is likely due to a bad or stuck open relief valve.

You can check all the obvious things that are less likely to cause your problem like making sure both hose connections are secure, that all the grease points are greased (there are a lot of them on the 48BH), the tractor is fully warmed up, and the engine speed is adequate. The linkages to the control valve could be loose so you could check them also. The BH is made in the US or Canada so the quality is not comparable to the tractor which is made in Japan. On mine the reason it bent a cylinder shaft was that the factory installed a relief valve backwards so it did not work and that was a fairly common problem along with installing the wrong valves.
 
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/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif JD Dealer picked the tractor up Monday - Called today and was told the pressure checked within spec. Pushed the fact that it would not pick the back of the tractor off the ground and he told me they compared it to one on the yard with no appreciable difference. Not looking good for the home team!

Will yours pick the rear tires off the ground?
 

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