Price Check Price Check (7800,3030,3400)

[BlacknTan]

Congratulations Hill..

You'll LOVE that 7800!

 

[B20iac]

Big Ed.

I went through the same model analysis! Have 12 hours on L3400HST, mostly mowing. I like the beef in the rear of the L3400 as compared to the B-series. Position control is accurate and smooth, which helps w/ mowing. Excellent power. Treads lightly on my 4 acre lawn/hay field. PTO good so far.... My deal:

L3400HST-F, R-4s, canopy $14,989
LA463 w/ 66" Q/A bucket $ 4,000
Woods 80X hoe w/ thumb $ 7,669
LandPride 72" mower $ 1,795

Also, 2 hats, rear light, block heater, bucket hook, free 50 hour service at my residence

Good Luck with your decision


B20iac

Traded the B20TLB

 

[hill]

I was told by a long time owner that as HP goes up price goes down, and he meant that it applied to all of the brandnames. It proves true with Kubotas as pound for pound you get more tractor per dollar when you're buying the bigger series. Why is that? I don't know but I think that for any of the makers to succeed in our market they need careful and astute market analysis as well as a willingness to compete at each level. Obviously Kubota is doing it right.

I don't think that there is any nefarious practice at hand - they aren't price gouging or otherwise ripping people off as a rule though there may be isolated attempts now and then (i'm not including consideration of midwest John Deere dealers here, they write their own tickets and their buyers in large part write off their equipment by depreciation and other business related tax advantages).

If you look at the manufacturer's list price guide from Kubota as posted here: http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/kubota-buying-pricing/103086-look-what-i-found-part.html for the 'B' series, and in another thread by the same member for the 'L' series (search "look what I found") you'll see that the prices you're being quoted are in almost all cases substantually below the manufacturer's list prices. They may not all be the same but as the tractor salesman I dealt with said "Nobody even tries to get retail prices - if they did they'd go out of business in a couple of months at best".

So we're getting better deals than we do when we go shopping for a new car or truck, and we complain about it?

I'm an internet buyer. Most everything I buy has been price researched carefully. It's rare for me to buy near home but in this case I'm very happy to have been able to buy from the local small town dealer and know that I was getting as good a deal as it was possible to get. Heck, this guy's even giving out free black Kubota jackets to each tractor buyer! (Lucky for me they were all out of size small )

 

[GreenWannabe]

From CT, it is not that far to PA. You might check with Messicks, he is a huge supporter of this board and has an excellent reputation according to the many posts I have read. I believe Neil will treat you fairly and give you as good a price as you will find in your part of the country. I have no axe to grind in this matter, just repeating what I have read over and over on this BB. Good luck with your search.

 

[crbr]

I closed the deal on a B7800 yesterday. I'd had a price of $23,478.60 including $1678.60 in state use tax at 7.7%.

When I went in to make the deal after trotting that price in comparison both here and around town, and looking at comparable Kioti and MH tractors I started up talking to the same fella' I'd met before - discussing other tractors and the merits or failings of each.

In the midst of talking about Kioti's I interupted to say "Bill, make this $23,000 even out the door and we'll have a deal right now.

And he took it!

So it's like this:

B7800 - $12,500.
LA402fl- $3100.
BH75a- $6200.
total: $21,800.

Tax adds $1200. in my mind but the truth of it is that the dealer will have to fork over the total tax less 7.7% of the $487.60 reduction on the tractor so right figuring would show the tractor being sold for........

$21,321.40 !!

The tires will be filled R4's, I took the 0% down, 0% for 36 mo.

I'm liking the feel of the whole thing!! He called late in the day to apologize for maybe not being able to deliver before the 4th because they'll have to get a subframe kit from the warehouse.

edit: I'll get the new seat at no additional cost as soon as it's in stock.

You did well on price, selection, and implements. Congrats!

 

[DiezNutz]

hill, have you seen this thread?
http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/kubota-buying-pricing/101101-question-backhoe-users.html?highlight=backhoe+loaded

You won't get everyone to agree, but just be aware that with the BH and filled tires you're putting alot of stress on the rear end (plus, Kubota doesn't approve).

 

[crazyal]

hill I understand where you're coming from about the price vs. size of machine but you can look at it this way too. It takes about the same amount of labor to machine a crank shaft no matter if it's a 30hp engine or 60hp. There's not a lot of extra steel in that larger crankshaft or more work required to cast it. If you apply that to the over all construction of a tractor you can see it doesn't take half the work or parts to make a smaller tractor.

The problem comes when you really get serious, at least for me, and start looking at bigger tractors because it's not much more and I justify it by saying I'm going to keep it for at least 20 years or more. What does $2000 extra translate into? Less than $3 a day for a nicer tractor, no regrets because I sacrificed, that feeling of owning a bigger tractor, etc. OK so I'm terrible at staying within a price limit. It's a good thing that the dealers around here have a pitiful selection, who knows what would happen if they got one of the ones I'm thinking of in, lol.

 

[hill]

hill, have you seen this thread?
http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/kubota-buying-pricing/101101-question-backhoe-users.html?highlight=backhoe+loaded

You won't get everyone to agree, but just be aware that with the BH and filled tires you're putting alot of stress on the rear end (plus, Kubota doesn't approve).

I asked the dealer about that and was told to not worry about it too much, so I won't. Seems kinda' silly anyway given that pretty large loads are, or can be, applied to tires and tractor when in ANY use.

I think that the bulk of the various warnings and cautions and 'don't recommend' are driven by OSHA safety analysis and/or liability possibility rather than being driven by an interest in the logevity of the machine to which the warnings apply.

Anyone who has participated in OSHA programs at a managerial level has seen that the primary tool used, the "JSA" or Job Safety Analysis, is a mechanism for identifying all POSSIBLE failings of either practices used or implements used in the performance of each element or facet of any task. Once a hazard has been identified, however remote it may be, the program requires that preventative measures or changes be made in either tool or in usage that will best alleviate that hazard. A new industry was born - that of "signage" the making of various warning labels and signs. Every large workplace gets catalogs dedicate to selling them and little else.

So, to participate in our marketplace every tractor maker, and particularly import tractor makers must either alter design, recommend against, and effectively warn of each and every possible failing in either the use of or the design of their product. And we get so much protective advise. We find it in innumerable stickers placed all over our new tractors and we read it in the manuals or website descriptions of our tractors. We feel so warm and well coddled,.... or not.

Well,....the tractor seems to be built strong enough to accept my abuse. It had better be or I'll be leaving it for a stronger one. There is nothing safe about tractors - they are a rolling digging deathtrap and it depends entirely on the good sense and experience of each operator to prevent any grievious accident or any damage to the machine. I'll lift my loaded tires almost off the ground with the stabilizers. If they fail I'll have to figure out stronger ones. I'll look for sharp objects when I move the tractor so as not to pop one of the loaded tires too.

 

[JPinnell]

B7800HSD WITH TURF TIRES
LA402-1 FRONT END LOADER WITH BUCKET
RCK60-27B MID-MOUNT MOWER
Package price $18526.00

I'm not sure where you're located? I'm in mid MO and was quoted $18,000 for the B7800HSD-LA402-72"MMM from one dealer and $18,500 from another. I went with the higher price guy as I got a phenomenal trade in price and he's slightly more convenient to get to. Your pricing doesn't look out of line dependent on your market but you might could do a little better. Also keep in mind that the 0% applies to everything you buy with the tractor purchase - need a back blade, toothbar for the loader, etc? Now's the time to add them on.

I've got 30hrs on my B7800 so far and am completely happy. I only wish I had bought a hoe with it

 

[Taiser]

I only wish I had bought a hoe with it

and how sweet it is.....

RUN... Don't walk! and get one.......BEST....ATTACHMENT........EVER!!!!